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by Lowlander » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:16 pm

No such plugin exists and I'm not aware that anyone has worked on one.

MCE new Status

by redbol » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:53 pm

This Thread ist 18 Months old. Is there an new Status about programming a MCE 2005 Plugin which use the MM Database? Read Only would be OK.

Meddio vs Media portal

by NightInAgharta » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:44 am

Meedio is commercialware, of course it's better but it's expensive.
Media Portal is unstable because it is still in an early beta. But it's free, and working on it, it could become a good product.

by Lowlander » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:31 pm

I have used the mediaportal software in it's testing fase and it didn't work. Constant crashes. I finally had to reinstall windows because it had parts lingering all around windows affecting other media applications.

I have use Meedio and it seems to work very nice. I wish MM could intergrate with this one. Of course only the MM DB would need to be intergrated. Meedio does a good job at the rest. Especially having playlists from MM in Meedio would be real nice (and autoDJ).

I still have to use MCE, but I'm eager to. I have seen some screenshots of MCE Vista and that looks promising.

by julzcompufreek » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:10 pm

I personally think the opensource idea is much better. It means no one will have to go out and buy MCE.

A good solution for who like to work

by NightInAgharta » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:15 am

What about an Open Source Media Center software?
Look here: http://mediaportal.sourceforge.net
and here for sources: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mediaportal
I've tested it and is seems to work fine (also if it is still under development, you see it's a pre-beta release).

MM developers could work together with those people to builtd a well-integrated suite.

Or someone could write a plugin for MP to integrate it with MM.

by Lowlander » Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:49 am

I think the best solution would be a module/plugin for MCE (and Meedio) that would use the interface of MCE/Meedio and the library of MM. Due to the type of application MCE/Meedio is you wouldn't have the same functionality as MM, but you would have the power of the MM library.


PS. Meedio is an application like MCE but runs in any windows version (http://www.meedio.com)

by Peke » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:26 pm

TRHR wrote:Baschtler:

I'm a MM Lover and a Mediamonkey user and I hate the My Music MCE interface too, It might take some time, but I'm gonna start work on a MM plugin for MCE 2005.

I'll let you know when I get further down the track and have a workable beta.

Cheers.
If you know how to make and use XML I can provide you with Needed Interface (General Plugin) to comunicate with MM or controls it.
Unfortunatly I do not know XML :( It is on My TO-Learn List :) I'm curently to learning Basics of PHP and MySQL.

by TRHR » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:46 pm

Baschtler:

I'm a MM Lover and a Mediamonkey user and I hate the My Music MCE interface too, It might take some time, but I'm gonna start work on a MM plugin for MCE 2005.

I'll let you know when I get further down the track and have a workable beta.

Cheers.

by Lowlander » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:21 am

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:52 pm

So if understand right MM does run stand alone on MCE.

I wonder if the Media Center interface is capable of decently handling big libraries?

I think the best thing for you right now is to use MM either on the MCE box or another networked PC to created playlists. Export these playlists and import them into Media Center interface (if possible). This way you can keep using the power of MM (managing and auto-playlists) but also the usability of Media Center interface (readability and remote control functionality).

And I would add a request to the scripts forum if someone can connect the MM DB thru XML with the Media Center interface.

by Baschtler » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:34 pm

Yes exactly, I would like to see MM being integrated into the special Media Center interface. Thus it can easily be handled by RC (remote control) and looks quite stylish.

Now I've got the problem, that I have to run MM on my TV screen and soon I'll need new glasses, cause the fonts are so small.

BTW, the trick with the increased font size doesn't work for me. Except the search field everything stays as small as it was before changing the font size to extra large.

@ Lowlander

MCE 2005 is actually a normal Win XP Professional but its got some extras. One is the Media Center Interface which allows you to make your PC to an media central for the whole house.

Therefore its "WAF" (Woman Acceptance Factor) :o is enormous. Its so easy to use and looks so stylish that your girlfriend will love the living room PC from now on (as long as its silent enough).

Even plain PC noobs can use and access a mp3 collection from now on. They dont even have to know how a computer mouse works. :)

Do't get me wrong, this is nothing special about MCE from Microsoft. Every other MediaCenter Interface such as Mediaportal, Meedio, MythTV, myHTPC, Scenia TVCentral and so on do have theese advantages

I just like MCE2005 ffrom Microsoft the best, cause I think it looks better than most of the other media center solutions. Further more it was the first media center software that instantly worked with my hardware.

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:26 pm

I don't get the XML thing for MCE 2005. Are you saying that you can't install normal software and run it like on a normal windows?

Or would you like to see MM integrated into the special media interface if MCE.

Sorry I have never used nor seen MCE before.

As for 640*480 it is actually hidden since Windows XP. You can get to it by going into display properties > settings > advanced > Adapter > List All Modes (I'm not sure if this works in MCE).

@Jiri. A simpler skin could be sufficient for MM. But this would require more control of MM at the skin level, like fonts.

by Baschtler » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:37 pm

It would be awesome if you could use the media monkey database totally independant from the front-end.

Imagine not only skins, but totally different design solutions for totally different types of use.

One family member uses the original MM on his Laptop, using the "ordinary" design, while in the next room, another dude uses the same database with the same dynamic playlists and ratings on a Home Theater PC (HTPC) on his Widescreen TV, sitting 3 Meters away from the screen. He therefore uses a remote control and no mouse or keyboard.

This would be so cool, cause you could use the same database within every room of your house. The mixes and ratings you have on your "normal" PC are via WLAN everywhere in your house. You could see how often a song has been played and your personal hitlist wouldn't be inaccurate cause of using different PCs.

But for using MM on the TV in the living room, with a PC running Microsoft Mediacenter Edition 2005, a plug-in is needed. This plug-in needs to be designed in some kind of Media-Center style ...

like this plug-in maybe:
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otherwise it looks semi professional and doesnt fit really into the Media Center Look and Feel. The Plug-In can be programmed in XML cause normal media center plug-ins are not much more than a webpage, layouted like the original Microsoft Media Center Programs ... it should therefore not be too complicated to program such a plug-in.

:-? Am I right ?

@ Lowlander

I agree that MM is more usable on a resolutino with 480x640 pixels but my graphics card cant display resolutions lesser than 800x600. No joke ... its an ATI Radeon 9500 Chip in my HTPC and somhow I cant change the resolution to 480x640. Besides this 800x600 is optimal for the MCE2005 Frontend. Every button is just big enough and not too big. :-?

by jiri » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:22 pm

We are interested in users' needs in this area. What exactly do you miss, is it only that everything should be bigger in MM interface, or would you also need any other changes?

Jiri

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