Anyone try the touch/iphone 2.2 firmware with MM yet?

by **Impulse** » Sat May 02, 2009 4:39 am

Why are you converting WMA tracks to MP4 during every sync? Obviously it's gonna take a long time as the conversion process takes X amount of time on top of whatever Y amount of time it takes to sync... Also, I doubt you're gonna be seeing an improvement in SQ by converting WMAs into MP4 files rather than MP3s but whatever. Just convert the WMA chunk of your library once and keep it stored, then either delete the WMAs or archive them separately.

I keep separate FLAC & MP3 libraries on my system (FLAC stuff is lossless, mostly stuff I've ripped from CDs I own, while the MP3 are portable equivalents of that plus stuff I've bought online, etc) and I've had 0 issues with MM sync'ing duplicates to my iPod Touch. I don't have it convert any tracks on-the-fly for sync'ing though, I have all the FLAC files pre-converted to MP3s and I keep both libraries straight by using filters and such... So when I wanna create a playlist for the iPod I use my MP3 filter to only see those tracks, when I'm playing back songs on my computer (and I want the superior audio quality) I go w/the FLAC filter (which is tailored to still display my downloaded MP3s, for which there is no FLAC equivalent obviously).

This works seamlessly with Smart Playlists too, so I can easily have an automated playlists that just downloads my most recently ripped OR downloaded MP3s to my iPod Touch constantly, very cool imo. In fact it's made sync'ing almost transparent.

I even have MM set to auto-organize downloaded tracks so I can buy tracks from iTunes or Zune or Amazon and maintain a single directory structure (as all three stores tend to store files differently)... Frankly there's nothing you can't make MM do as far as organization/conversion goes, just gotta learn to use the filters and stuff. It's waaaayyy more powerful than iTunes yet also more intuitive imo (iTunes just does a lot of things on it's own w/no user input or option to control it's behavior).

by **intellifoto** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:59 am

Yes, I am using a Touch 2 (32GB) with v2.2.1 and MM v3.0.6 Gold and the optional MP4 plugin. and Vista 64. They sort of work together, but for me it has been way too much hassle to be worthwhile. The free MM worked great on my computer, except it would not sync and convert my library of WMA lossless to the Touch until I bought the Gold version. I also got the $10 MP4 plugin so I could convert to the higher quality format rather than MP3, while not also having to store an itunes MP4 library converted from WMA lossless on my hard drive. Well, it was good in theory, but has been a waste of time trying to sync properly (yes, I turned off the sync mode in itunes, etc). MM conversions from WMA to MP4 directly to the Touch take forever. Syncing a MM playlist results in transfering duplicate files to the Touch. So I have 2 to 3 duplicates on the Touch, and have not figured out how to remove the duplicates automatically. I don't want to wipe the Touch of 16GB of files previously loaded from iTunes. I don't know the MM software that well, but I am a professional computer person (MCSE, etc), and MM problem solving is taking too much time. I'm going back to iTunes to control/sync the Touch.

by **SmoochiesBoss** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:05 pm

evanname wrote:Again, I don't know why this works, but when I did this (as mentioned in the above post): "....I checked 'Remove images from tags if larger than:' and put in '1' KB. I also left 'Sync all Album Art to Track folders' and 'Copy Album Art to Track tags' unchecked.", my album art on the iPhone worked perfectly.

For your library album art, do you store it in the tags, in the album folder, or both?

Right now I only store it in the tags. I tried your 1KB suggestion, but the art is still screwy in Coverflow. I'm getting some wrong album art as well as some amalgams of several album covers.

by **Impulse** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:32 pm

Thanks, someone else suggested that in another thread and it's what I've been doing now... In addition to simply playing a 'Recently Added' playlist that I've created in MediaMonkey; smart playlist within MM that just auto-adds whatever I've ripped/downloaded within the last 60 days, and it's then auto-sync'd. The more I use MM the more I love it! Auto-organize has made it so seamless to buy/download tracks from several different sites and have them all re-organized automatically how I want them (all w/o touching my CD rips which are already organized). MM puts anything else to SHAME! The addition of filters was a very smart choice by the devs too. Makes tying up all these other tools very seamless.

Edit: Oh and I've had no other issues with missing/mis-represented Album Art, seemed like it was just a one-time glitch with one or two albums. I've sync'd singles and albums alike since that previous message with no problem whatsoever.

by **DaveFrischknecht** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:08 am

Impulse wrote:
MM3 wrote:I have synched iphone 3g with MM and seen 2 problem;
1. if I change rating of music in iphone, the rating is not transfered to MM
2. if I build a on-the-go playlist in iphone, the list is not transfered to MM

is it supposed to be like that?
will it be fixed?
I'm having the opposite issue actually, with regards to #2... Whenever I Auto Sync my iPod Touch with MM it'll copy my current On-The-Go playlist to MM on my PC (which I'd rather it not do), and it renames it On The Go1 on the iPod and clears the actual On-The-Go playlist on the iPod (which I'd also rather it not do)... It's a minor annoyance at best, since I just use On-The-Go as my 'play everything on shuffle' option, but this behavior can be avoided I'd love to know how.

You can play everything on shuffle without using the On The Go playlist by going to album view on your iPod touch, tapping All Songs at the top of the list, then tapping Shuffle.

by **Impulse** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:11 pm

Oh alright, guess it's working as intended then... If that's the case I've had almost 0 issues sync'ing my iPod touch w/2.1 or 2.2 and the latest version of MM. There's some stuff I didn't understand about certain MM features at first but the forums have been very helpful. Besides my comment above, the other thing was the way it handles the nodes on the Auto Sync tab, but I've got it figured out and once I started sync'ing playlists and doing some manual syncs the way the auto sync process works started to make more sense to me.

The one issue I've had is the album art for one or two albums getting mixed up or disappearing (though the small thumbnail on the Album menu still shows up correctly, it's in CoverFlow and in Now Playing that it displays incorrectly)... Still trying to diagnose that one properly, deleting the tracks and re-sync'ing them fixed it but it has happened twice (involving at 'least one of the same albums on both occasions oddly).

by **nohitter151** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:09 am

Impulse wrote:
I'm having the opposite issue actually, with regards to #2... Whenever I Auto Sync my iPod Touch with MM it'll copy my current On-The-Go playlist to MM on my PC (which I'd rather it not do), and it renames it On The Go1 on the iPod and clears the actual On-The-Go playlist on the iPod (which I'd also rather it not do)... It's a minor annoyance at best, since I just use On-The-Go as my 'play everything on shuffle' option, but this behavior can be avoided I'd love to know how.

I believe this is what iTunes does as well...

by **Impulse** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:13 pm

MM3 wrote:I have synched iphone 3g with MM and seen 2 problem;
1. if I change rating of music in iphone, the rating is not transfered to MM
2. if I build a on-the-go playlist in iphone, the list is not transfered to MM

is it supposed to be like that?
will it be fixed?

I'm having the opposite issue actually, with regards to #2... Whenever I Auto Sync my iPod Touch with MM it'll copy my current On-The-Go playlist to MM on my PC (which I'd rather it not do), and it renames it On The Go1 on the iPod and clears the actual On-The-Go playlist on the iPod (which I'd also rather it not do)... It's a minor annoyance at best, since I just use On-The-Go as my 'play everything on shuffle' option, but this behavior can be avoided I'd love to know how.

by **nohitter151** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:17 pm

bartman wrote:
so? It's not a solution i think!
I cannot use MM

I'll quote myself to make it more clear:

nohitter151 wrote:Please provide the files that Jiri mentions in his above posts. So far many people have complained about this but have not submitted anything to the MM dev team.

by **bartman** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:46 am

nohitter151 wrote:
bartman wrote:My iPhone is fully sync with iTunes (all works great!).
if only listening 1 song stored in my iPhone without synchronize nothing with MM a lot of songs (maybe 30% of all songs) got an empty album art!

strange -> If I put iPhone in landscape view (coverflow) all album have correct pictures ... their respective songs, no (always empty)!
Nothing to do if I re-sync with iTunes .... some cover come back some are gone.

Any suggestion?
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... ch#p180599

so? It's not a solution i think!

I cannot use MM

by **nohitter151** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:07 pm

bartman wrote:My iPhone is fully sync with iTunes (all works great!).
if only listening 1 song stored in my iPhone without synchronize nothing with MM a lot of songs (maybe 30% of all songs) got an empty album art!

strange -> If I put iPhone in landscape view (coverflow) all album have correct pictures ... their respective songs, no (always empty)!
Nothing to do if I re-sync with iTunes .... some cover come back some are gone.

Any suggestion?

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... ch#p180599

by **bartman** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:59 pm

My iPhone is fully sync with iTunes (all works great!).
if only listening 1 song stored in my iPhone without synchronize nothing with MM a lot of songs (maybe 30% of all songs) got an empty album art!

strange -> If I put iPhone in landscape view (coverflow) all album have correct pictures ... their respective songs, no (always empty)!

Nothing to do if I re-sync with iTunes .... some cover come back some are gone.

Any suggestion?

by **evanname** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:32 pm

Guest wrote:Does this tie into the problem I am having? I kind of hope so 'cos I am going nuts!
I have tagged all my tracks with MM by using crtl+L but I get different album art when it is the next or previous in line on my iphone to what it shows as when it gets into focus. Does that make sense to anyone? I have tried going through and pasting album art into the whole album and also into the individual songs from every album as it seems unless I go in and tell MM that the artwork is FRONT COVER or whatever, it ignores me! I am going crazy, can anyone point me in the right direction? I am using iphone latest update and MM 3.0.6.1190
Stay happy,
Noodles

Noodles,

I was having very similar problems. I am assuming that you are having problems with the album art for the music on your iPhone but the album art in your normal MediaMonkey library is OK?

Again, I don't know why this works, but when I did this (as mentioned in the above post): "....I checked 'Remove images from tags if larger than:' and put in '1' KB. I also left 'Sync all Album Art to Track folders' and 'Copy Album Art to Track tags' unchecked.", my album art on the iPhone worked perfectly.

It is almost as if MediaMonkey already copies the album art by default, but when you tell it to do it again (by keeping or placing the art in the tags or in the directory), it screws things up.

When I do the above, I can go to the music on my iPhone (as viewed from within the MediaMonkey explorer window) and select any mp3 (that was copied straight from my library or converted from another file format), right-click to view the properties, go to the 'Album Art' tab, and there is no album art shown.

However, if I go to the original song in my main library, the album art displays just fine, and the album art also displays fine for the music on my iPhone when I view it on the iPhone itself rather than from within MediaMonkey.

Basically, in my case at least, when I tell MediaMonkey to copy album art to the iPhone, the album art gets all screwy, but when I tell it to strip all the album art out, the album art appears perfectly. Strange, but I'll take it.

Eric

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:36 pm

Does this tie into the problem I am having? I kind of hope so 'cos I am going nuts!
I have tagged all my tracks with MM by using crtl+L but I get different album art when it is the next or previous in line on my iphone to what it shows as when it gets into focus. Does that make sense to anyone? I have tried going through and pasting album art into the whole album and also into the individual songs from every album as it seems unless I go in and tell MM that the artwork is FRONT COVER or whatever, it ignores me! I am going crazy, can anyone point me in the right direction? I am using iphone latest update and MM 3.0.6.1190
Stay happy,
Noodles

by **evanname** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:55 pm

Skullneck,

No, I only have one d_iPhone.dll file and haven't ever had that problem. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Below is what I would try in your case, but keep in mind this is pretty much a stab in the dark, and you may of already tried these things (I haven't read this thread all the way through):
1. Not plug the iTouch into the computer
2. Start MediaMonkey and delete all those extra instances under the 'Available Devices / Plug-ins' in the Tools | Options | Portable/Audio Devices area
3. Close MediaMonkey
4. Make sure your computer's autoplay settings for the iTouch are set to 'Take no action'
5. Start iTunes, plug in the iTouch, restore it, shut down iTunes (after setting everything to the correct settings as per the previously mentioned webpage).
6. Unplug the iTouch.
7. Start MediaMonkey again, plug in the iTouch, and hope for the best.

Good luck!
Eric

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