Problematic artist names [#5480, #5529]

Post a reply

Smilies
:D :) :( :o :-? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink:
BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON
Topic review
   

Expand view Topic review: Problematic artist names [#5480, #5529]

Re: Problematic artist names [#5480, #5529]

by rusty » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:43 pm

Rockarola,

See more information about this issue at: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5529

Unfortunately, this will likely remain a limitation of 3.1.0 at release. The workaround would be to use a different splitter such as |.

-Rusty

Re: Problematic artist names [#5480]

by Rockarola » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:25 pm

Rusty

In your link jiri states that the double ";" is expected behavior, and I can see the logic in that. I just fail to see why I can not reverse that change. No matter what I do, "à;GRUMH..." still displays as "à;;GRUMH...". The properties of the tracks reads correct (both in MM and in my tag-editor), but Album Artist, Taskbar text and Scrobbles still display the double ";". If this is NOT a bug, how do I make it stop displaying the double ";"? (It may seem like a lot of complaining about one single artist, but à;GRUMH... are amongst my frequently played artists, and so it annoys me. :-))

I am running .1249 on Vista Home, with Glided skin and Last.fm scrobbler 1.0.2.17

Re: Problematic artist names [#5480]

by rusty » Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:34 pm

Rockarola,

No need. I can reproduce the issue. See: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5467

-Rusty

Re: Problematic artist names

by Rockarola » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:47 am

rusty wrote:Rockarola,

When I have an artist=artist1;artist2, it displays as "artist1;artist2" in the miniplayer, taskbar. I didn't test how it scrobbles (note: using skinned mode).

Can you elaborate on what settings you're using?

Thx.

-Rusty
Rusty

Sure, no problem...which settings do you want me to list?

Re: Problematic artist names

by Teknojnky » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:04 pm

Now that I remember, there is another problem with multi artists during add/rescan...

I have the pipe symbol | as my separator, and when I fix all the problem artists then rescan it splits them back up into separate artists again.

actually, just trying to fix à;GRUMH... again in 1229, it appears to fix track list but every time I collapse and expand the tree it shows up as split again (meaning separate à and GRUMH...).

Re: Problematic artist names

by rusty » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:54 pm

Rockarola,

When I have an artist=artist1;artist2, it displays as "artist1;artist2" in the miniplayer, taskbar. I didn't test how it scrobbles (note: using skinned mode).

Can you elaborate on what settings you're using?

Thx.

-Rusty

Re: Problematic artist names

by Rockarola » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:36 pm

I have another problem with the artist à;GRUMH... The name displays correctly in tags and library, but all other places (Taskbar, Scrobbles and MicroPlayer) the name displays as à;;GRUMH... (two semicolons in stead of one). I've tried changing any settings which might have influence on this problem, but I've had no luck so far.

Re: Problematic artist names

by Teknojnky » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:24 am

Bex wrote:So the key seems to rename all occurrences of the artist you want fix?
This seems to be working, I am going thru them now.

Re: Problematic artist names

by Owyn » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:17 am

I have seen the same problem in rips. My normal fix is to change "\" to "/" in the cddb metadata.

Re: Problematic artist names

by Teknojnky » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:05 am

oh and here is another artist

M/A/R/R/S

and

Love/Hate

and

F/O/A/D

Re: Problematic artist names

by Teknojnky » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:59 am

MM3 monkey wrote:2. If you have a back-slash in a field that you are using in your auto-organise path, auto-organise thinks it's a directory level and it messes up the mask (with no warning of course). I'm not sure if this is expected behavior or not so I'm hiding it in here!


yea, that problem with backslashes has been around since 2.x....

backslashes in any metadata should never cause a subfolder creation, only backslashes in the organize masks should.

this track always gets screwed up.

C:\del *.mp3

Re: Problematic artist names

by Owyn » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:13 am

Yeah. Got it now.

I selected a track with multiple artist and composer and used Find More From Same->Folder(Explorer)
Selected the track in Explorer and opened it with Notepad++
Selected Plugins->Hex-Editor->View in Hex in Notepad++
Searched (Ctrl+F) for text, and there you are. "/" in the TPE1 tag, "; " in the track Property.

Re: Problematic artist names

by MM3 monkey » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:12 am

Just a couple of not very helpful asides (the second one almost completely off-topic!):

1. I think that if even if you have MM configured to use the pipe | as the separator (like I do - bcos it looks the best. I like the pipe!), if you use a semi-colon in a multi-item field MM will still treat it as a separator (and I guess it will be converted over to a pipe at some point but I'm not sure about that).

2. If you have a back-slash in a field that you are using in your auto-organise path, auto-organise thinks it's a directory level and it messes up the mask (with no warning of course). I'm not sure if this is expected behavior or not so I'm hiding it in here!

Re: Problematic artist names

by Owyn » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:04 am

Bex wrote:Remember now that even if a / is used within the ID3 tag to split multiple artists, MM's library can use another one. In 3.0 it was a ; in 3.1 this is configurable (must be the same for all tracks though). This means that when MM reads the tag from the file upon adding/rescanning tracks to the library it translates the / to the one used within the library and displays that. When MM writes tags it always uses / regardless of the splitter used within the library.

So it is really two different things. I.e. what is used within the actual tag and what is used within the library.
Now I am totally lost. If I look at the raw database, I see both ";" and "/" in the fields.

Hmmmm. Maybe. Look at the files with raw tag dump tomorrow.

Re: Problematic artist names

by Bex » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:44 pm

Remember now that even if a / is used within the ID3 tag to split multiple artists, MM's library can use another one. In 3.0 it was a ; in 3.1 this is configurable (must be the same for all tracks though). This means that when MM reads the tag from the file upon adding/rescanning tracks to the library it translates the / to the one used within the library and displays that. When MM writes tags it always uses / regardless of the splitter used within the library.

So it is really two different things. I.e. what is used within the actual tag and what is used within the library.

Top