[quote="Vyper"]1257?[/quote]

The next release??

1257?

Petr has resolved this issue in build 1257, yay!

[quote="nohitter151"][quote="chrisjj"]"Now Playing" ... sometimes does not contain the track that [i]is[/i] playing. [/quote]
Care to explain?[/quote]This happens when the now playing track has been deleted from "Now Playing".

NOW PLAYING = Now Playing This Playlist.

two words removed to make shorter title on menus. 8)

[quote="nohitter151"][quote="chrisjj"]"Now Playing" ... sometimes does not contain the track that [i]is[/i] playing. [/quote]
Care to explain?[/quote]
1. Load track into the Now Playing panel;
2. select that track in NP and press Play button;
3. during playback press Delete button and choose "Remove from Now Playing only";
4. track is removed from NP, but is still playing.

However, this is not exclusively new to MM. Winamp has same behavior since I remember and I think that many users prefer such behavior.

[quote="chrisjj"]it often contains tracks that are not playing[/quote]
Of course that Now Playing contains tracks that are not (currently) playing. You don''t want to hear all tracks which are contained in it in same time, right? Well, maybe its name is wrong (Active Playlist or just Playlist maybe?), but not behavior.

Sometimes I think you take things way too literal, Chris.

[quote="chrisjj"]> i'm one that reads now playing list as meaning its the songs that are now playing

As an aside, let's remember that "Now Playing" is a total misnomer - it often contains tracks that are not playing and sometimes does not contain the track that [i]is[/i] playing. It has been so long since we experienced users learned to ignore the meaning of the title that we tend to forget that it stumps just about every new user. This is part of the bumpy learning curve that sends so many users back to iTunes. I would like to see MM overcome this one day. But the %age of existing users that would agree on an alternative term is I think very low. Especially the obvious (and original) term: "playlist" :)[/quote]

I have yet to experience a situation when any track(s) that are playing are not in the np list, but then I am also a user who only plays tracks which are in my library, I never use the my computer node. I also do not find the title misleading, now playing list is a list of songs scheduled to play, so where is the misnomer?? I am also not a user who uses this list for building playlists, it is for playing and editing of playing tracks. I am sure if you ran a poll you would find there are various reasons why users use it, and most are not for playing. :wink: But I am also a user who does not care for the name of functions, it is the functionality that concerns me, and all programs offer a learning curve. As a user who has only used iTunes for purchasing songs, never the library I find it intimidating and primitive to use, but I could see how it would be intimidating switching to MM from iTunes. However that is the same for any program, anyone who switches programs expects and wants things to be similar to what they are used to, regardless of their reasons for switching.

Nyn

[quote="chrisjj"]"Now Playing" ... sometimes does not contain the track that [i]is[/i] playing. [/quote]
Care to explain?

> i'm one that reads now playing list as meaning its the songs that are now playing

As an aside, let's remember that "Now Playing" is a total misnomer - it often contains tracks that are not playing and sometimes does not contain the track that [i]is[/i] playing. It has been so long since we experienced users learned to ignore the meaning of the title that we tend to forget that it stumps just about every new user. This is part of the bumpy learning curve that sends so many users back to iTunes. I would like to see MM overcome this one day. But the %age of existing users that would agree on an alternative term is I think very low. Especially the obvious (and original) term: "playlist" :)

i did forget some are using now playing to make playlists with, cause i do it with the listview area. it shows all the files tags and is not a m3u file it lists them from the database in the list view area which is faster.
so i am sorry i forgot you did it in the now playing list which is so strange to me i don't do it that way.

and i did not think of it losing the tag info because i don't save the songs from the now playing list i add them in to the database and then edit them in the listview area. i'm one that reads now playing list as meaning its the songs that are now playing which you can add too or remove from the list thats all i use it for.
8)

Sorry, but you are wrong. We are not picky if some "feature" could destroy someone's tags. You also forgot that some of us are using Now Playing panel only for creating playlists, but not for playing.

I know it is faster to load bunch of files into playlist without displaying there metadata, but some of us prefer to see them even with some delay. Winamp at least has the "Metadata Reading" option with which you could specify when it should read metadata - when files are loaded, when files are played or viewed, only when files are played...

[quote="Mizery_Made"]Messing with this even more, I see that it is reproducable as Z describes. No need to clear playlist, and restart before attempting this bug. Just stop whatever might be playing in the player, clear the list, add some new tracks without playing any of them, restart. Boom.

[/quote]
that did it this time. just not sure what was making it not show up before, but my word you guys are picky. :lol: :D

all that is going on is that monkey is not refreshing the now playing list that was not played. he is giving you one song in it which might be one you will play again. just go to the playlist node right click the playlist you had in there and click play now he reloads the info in the now playing window. but he ain't going to do work unless he's told too, my opinon on the error its just new way of making the monkey do less work trying to cut cpu cycles :-?

but that is just my thoughts on it. this could really be an bug in the program but most features were bugs that were taken advantage off. like color tv or color on the computer monitor. an oops moument that was taken and ran with.

> Did you see this behavior more than once, Chris?

No more than twice, for sure.

> Or was it just a "Oh, that's odd. I should see if I can get it to do that again sometime"?

"Oh, that's odd. I'll just finish off the issue I'm in the middle of, then go back to it... Oh, now it doesn't happen. ... and what exactly did happen anyway??"

> ... note it in here next time. You may not be able to reproduce it, but it might point someone else in the right direction of the trigger, you know?

Absolutely. If I'd realised the seriousness, I would not have let uncertaintly deter a report.

I'd like a way to snap-shot MM's entire state, so bugs wouldn't get away when they gang up on me. I've not yet found e.g. VM that can do this usably.

Did you see this behavior more than once, Chris? Or was it just a "Oh, that's odd. I should see if I can get it to do that again sometime"? If you saw it a couple times, suggesting it might be a recurring error but just wasn't able to find the specific steps to it, note it in here next time. You may not be able to reproduce it, but it might point someone else in the right direction of the trigger, you know? Though if it was just a one time occurrence, yeah, can't say I haven't written off some "one time occurrence" chalking them up to me losing my mind or something, haha.