3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

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Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by Bex » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:34 pm

Old thread but if anyone is interested in being able to sort an AutoPlaylists, which consists of other AutoPlaylists, in the order of the other AutoPlaylists. It can now be done with the latest update of my "Playlist In Main Window"-Script:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=39589

The solution is to add the name of the AutoPlaylists to a Custom Field and then sort on that.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:23 pm

Owyn wrote:As discussed before the search/autoplaylist sort order you specified is equivalent to.
Click(Length) + Ctrl-Click(BitRate) + Ctrl-Click(Artist)
Try the Click (Random) :D

I cited the example for clarity. Real autoplaylist I need to first mix all the tracks (tracks that one artist does not often followed in succession one after the other), then play at first not played tracks, and then played.




For me the desired result I have to do the sort order is not

1.Random (A-Z) or (Z-A)
2.Played # <1 (A-Z)

as it would seem, as

1.Played # <1 (A-Z)
1.Random (A-Z) or (Z-A)

This applies to more complex playlists ...
rusty wrote:To elaborate on Owyn's comment:

The images that you show, indicate that you were only doing a single sort by either Length, Bitrate, or Artist--you did _not_ do a compound sort. Had you done a compound sort (by pressing CTRL while clicking each of the headers) the screengrab with the Artists sort would have shown _3_ arrows in the column headers (1 in the length column, 1 in the bitrate column, and one in the Artist column) rather than 1.

Hope this helps.

-Rusty
But the compound sort A + B + C +...+ X + Y + Z = single step-by-step sort Z + Y + X +...+ C + B + A.

Compound sort is the same single sort, only in reverse order.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by rusty » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:39 pm

To elaborate on Owyn's comment:

The images that you show, indicate that you were only doing a single sort by either Length, Bitrate, or Artist--you did _not_ do a compound sort. Had you done a compound sort (by pressing CTRL while clicking each of the headers) the screengrab with the Artists sort would have shown _3_ arrows in the column headers (1 in the length column, 1 in the bitrate column, and one in the Artist column) rather than 1.

Hope this helps.

-Rusty

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by Owyn » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm

As discussed before the search/autoplaylist sort order you specified is equivalent to.
Click(Length) + Ctrl-Click(BitRate) + Ctrl-Click(Artist)

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:12 pm

Screenshots on the forum look cropped. To view the full image, open it separately with the right mouse button.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:06 pm

Link to my database
MM.DB

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:06 pm

Ludek wrote:
We both cannot reproduce it.

Could you post a screenshot or your MM.DB so that we could confirm there is a problem?
But I guess there is only a kind of misunderstanding?
OK.1285.
KJIACC himself wrote:Take any your playlist "X" and click successively on the column headings (manual sorting):
1.Length (A-Z) 2.Bitrate (A-Z) 3.Artist (A-Z)

Remember the sequence of tracks!
s-1Image s-2Image s-3Image s-4Image
KJIACC himself wrote: Now create AutoPlaylist -> Advanced > Search Criteria: Playlist "X" > Sort Order: 1.Length (A-Z) 2.Bitrate (A-Z) 3.Artist (A-Z)
s-5Image
KJIACC himself wrote: The result completely different!
s-6Image

scren №4 and №6 different.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by rusty » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:30 pm

This works for me as well the way i'd expect. Unless I'm misunderstanding something...

-Rusty

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by Ludek » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:30 am

KJIACC wrote:1282. No change.
We both cannot reproduce it.

Could you post a screenshot or your MM.DB so that we could confirm there is a problem?
But I guess there is only a kind of misunderstanding?

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:17 am

1282. No change.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by Ludek » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:41 am

Take any your playlist "X" and click successively on the column headings (manual sorting):
1.Length (A-Z) 2.Bitrate (A-Z) 3.Artist (A-Z)

Remember the sequence of tracks!

Now create AutoPlaylist -> Advanced > Search Criteria: Playlist "X" > Sort Order: 1.Length (A-Z) 2.Bitrate (A-Z) 3.Artist (A-Z)

The result completely different!
For me the results are same too. Be sure you are using build 1280 and higher.

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:38 am

But this is not the sort sequence!
How to make a AutoPlaylist consistent step-by-step sorting?

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by nohitter151 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:25 am

KJIACC wrote:
Owyn wrote:You have to Ctrl-Click on the column headings for a compound sort.
Why compound? We make a consistent sort order.
Are different things
Do the following:

Take any your playlist "X" and click on the column headings (manual sorting):
Click: Length (A-Z)
Ctrl+Click: Bitrate (A-Z)
Ctrl+Click: Artist (A-Z)

Remember the sequence of tracks!

Now create AutoPlaylist -> Advanced > Search Criteria: Playlist "X" > Sort Order: 1.Length (A-Z) 2.Bitrate (A-Z) 3.Artist (A-Z)

The result is completely the same!

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by KJIACC » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:21 am

Owyn wrote:You have to Ctrl-Click on the column headings for a compound sort.
Why compound? We make a consistent sort order.
Are different things

Re: 3.1.2.1272 Sort orders in AutoPlaylist not work properly

by Owyn » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:11 am

You have to Ctrl-Click on the column headings for a compound sort.

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