Never mind! I decided to just go ahead and get MM...it worked perfectly with everything. The musicmatch wav files were recognized and added to the MM library without a hitch, and everything went right into my creative ZMV (including the meta data) perfectly. MM is the BEST music manager out there, without question (and I've tried them all)!

Folks

I recently bought a creative zen vision m (60GB) and have about 17,000 tracks that i ripped from CDs into .wav files using musicmatch. Needless to say, I can't seem to get my files into the zen vision m using musicmatch, so i want OUT! I am thinking about adopting MediaMonkey as my music organizer, and had a couple of questions. Apparently, the zen vision m only reads ID3 tags for MP3 files, so i can't really oranize my music in the zen by genre, artist, album, etc...i will just get an alphabetical listing of all my tracks. Is there a way for me (using Media Monkey) to take my musicmatch-created wav files and convert them into a format that is (1) lossless (i.e., wav), and (2) utilizes ID3 tags that can be read by my zen? i really want to get away from musicmatch, but don't want to lose all of the tagging information that i spent hours and hours creating when i ripped my cds.

well the reason i say it was crap is because of. ( if you made mmjb close your eyes cause you already know what i wont forget and i tell every chanch i get just as i told you. in the old MSEMF )

i had tried mmjb in my win98 computer i used it to burn a cdrom with wav files.

the mmjb burned the cdrom but it toasted my cdrw drive. what it did was mess up the sound it turned the volume down to next to nill and no matter what i did changed sound card reinstall the drivers for the old sound card and the cdrw drive.

changed to another sound card.

updated the drivers for all the sound cards i tired in it.

just nothing i did would boost the volume back up so mmjb toasted my cdrw drive.

i don't know how but it did and the author of mmjb knows that. and has been hiding from me in any forum he use to go too. so if he is in here he will now hide again. but he still owes me a cdrw drive..!!

when ever i catch him that is.

but he's good at hiding.



thats why i call it junk because it was junk. in case any one is newly online. the MSEMF was the microsoft electronic music forum. and it was the place to be back in 1998 and 1999.
it was taken over by zifdavis but they seemed to have changed it so much it is gone now. pause a minute for silence at its passing.

Oh yeah, I was gonna mention that earlier but just didn't have the time. MusicMatch became so obsessed with their agenda - copying the iTunes store - they essentially stopped adding new player and library management features and enhancements a couple of years ago.

Like we need a dedicated piece of software to function as a portal. A web browser probably makes the best front-end to a music store - you need dedicated software to manage a library, not to find and buy music.

Don't forget that WMP and iTunes are storefronts more than media players at this point. MMJB and WinAmp were bought by Yahoo and AOL who weren't able to capitalize on these players so they have basically not done a whole lot with them.

MediaMonkey and some open source variants seem the most promising music softwares as they're not pushing a corporate agenda (music sales/competition killer), but are meant to be music managers. They also understand that many people have large libraries and support them well.

rovingcowboy wrote:why? need you ask that ? MMJB is / was a bad program. look how many have left it over the years.

MMJB was a great program a couple of versions back, before they tacked on features nobody asked for and loaded it down with bugs. As a media player it was only so-so (I'd rather use the simpler, cleaner Winamp), but as a tag editor and library manager it was 2nd to none, clearly outclassing iTunes.

But I think MediaMonkey is at least as good now, and getting better with each release. It's missing some of the functionality of MMJB, and the interface isn't quite as elegant (yet!), but it does tons of stuff MMJB never did (and now never will), and more has been done to improve it in the past year than has been done on MMJB (or iTunes and Winamp, for that matter) in several years.

Long live da Monkey!

sunspot wrote:Good to see I'm not the only one who needed this feature badly!

There were some media players - such as the CD3O - that utilized MusicMatch Jukebox. Once the new version of MediaMonkey is out and working, we should probably go and advertise this new MediaMonkey feature on the forums dedicated to such devices. I'm sure there are plenty of users looking to switch to another program, now that Yahoo! has essentially abandoned MMJB after acquiring it (why???).

why? need you ask that ? MMJB is / was a bad program. look how many have left it over the years.

Good to see I'm not the only one who needed this feature badly!

There were some media players - such as the CD3O - that utilized MusicMatch Jukebox. Once the new version of MediaMonkey is out and working, we should probably go and advertise this new MediaMonkey feature on the forums dedicated to such devices. I'm sure there are plenty of users looking to switch to another program, now that Yahoo! has essentially abandoned MMJB after acquiring it (why???).

just downloaded media monkey this weekend. i am converting a very large library of wav files all ripped in music match over to flac files in media monkey, and i am experiencing the same problem. certain files freeze media monkey and i have to force quit. anyway, looking forward to the fix. awesome to find a program that will read the music match meta data.

no problem.
I hope soon

Peke wrote:Again THX for sending it.
I fixed it and will be in MM new version.
If you find anything new (I hope not) just contact me.

That's great news, Peke. Any word on when the next version is due out?

Thanks as always!

Again THX for sending it.
I fixed it and will be in MM new version.
If you find anything new (I hope not) just contact me.

OK, that e-mail address didn't work either, so I sent a PM via this forum.

Just realized the link I sent you won't work. I'll send another one to the e-mail address listed on your website.

Peke -

Just sent you an e-mail with a link to a 700Kb sample file.

Thanks for looking at this!