zombiefly wrote:(...)the half baked solution with player pro/import script just never seems to work for me. (...)

You could send me your debug log to find out what's going wrong in your case (as I suggested earlier). It can easily be activated in version 1.5 via options. Moreover it can import play stats from MM to PlayerPro now.

Apart from that I totally agree that it's a not very elegant workaround and that the official Android app with fully automatic synchronisation is awaited eagerly.

I'm talking about one from MediaMonkey.

not exactly, some school kid is trying to write it and says:

Ok, so first the disappointing news, of course as soon as I started planning this application I got swamped by schoolwork and regular work, so there is actually very little done on the project. I still have a lot to learn about Android development itself. So I wholeheartedly apologize if I got anyone's hopes up, etc. I got in way too far over my head and while I don't plan on not doing this it is certainly not going to be done anytime soon. This summer I plan on at least getting some alpha stuff working but then in the fall I'll be starting my first year at the University of Guelph for Software Engineering so we'll see how much I get done. Again I'm deeply sorry if I mislead anyone in my abilities, or the progress of this application

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1047871

doesn't really fill you with hope does it? unless of course you are talking about an official app?

MediaMonkey is still working on its own Android Player.

i've completely given up on this. MM devs said they would implement it and never did. the half baked solution with player pro/import script just never seems to work for me. I've spent far too long attempting to get this to work, and to make matters worse player pro now has AVRCP1.3 support, which has completely broken last.fm scrobbling... so now i've gone backwards...

I really don't get why people don't think having decent music sync isn't important.

Are there any plans from the MM devs to implement better android syncing? More specifically keeping tracking of podcast/audiobook play counts among multiple players. I don't like player pro, and I find mortplayer audiobook a much better tool.

PlayerPro can export in iTunes or Songbird (well, in fact the RatingFile add-on) format. But in iTunes format it is necessary to do an import first, otherwise the export is always empty. There is no TrackID in Songbird format as there is no import from MM.
As you may have seen, my Sync Back Ratings script uses Songbird format, mainly because no import is needed from MM.

Aff wrote:Is there any news?
I'm considering integrating PlayerPro play count support into my SyncBackRatings script.

ahh, i do love the MM forum alerts! they arrive once or twice a year and still we have no progress on this....

I gave up in the end. The PlayerPro Dev put the bits in that we need and these are stored in an xml file on the phone. What is the script you have? i'm not familiar with it. Please tell me this will read the xml from playerpro and move the playcounts and skips back to MM (please, please!)

Is there any news?
I'm considering integrating PlayerPro play count support into my SyncBackRatings script.

yes!
I'm in contact with the dev of PlayerPro, I'll ask him about album shuffle!
Looking forward to tomorrow now!

Oh ho.
You didn't mention it had skip count in my thread! This has interested me much more now
Unfortunately it's 11.25 at night here, so it will have to wait until tomorrow if I can find some time to see what can be done here.

(as an aside: I wish I could find an android player that does album shuffle...)

Ok. I'm back again. I did attempt to start the ball rolling on with full android sync a while ago, contacted player pro (android) dev, contacted MM devs, connected them together and .... i'm not sure what happened next

..so, revisited this today. I noticed that playerpro can now output an xml stat report of played tracks, ratings, skips etc. Looking at the export info, this is ideal for importing into MM.

I'm using a modified version of LastFMImport.vbs, i'm having trouble remembering who wrote the original script! (help!)

What I want to do is modify the lastfm script, pass it the export from playerpro and adjust the script to use that rather than last.fm's xml.

The same logic will apply, the script will loop through the play history and update the MM database with playcount, skip etc.

The PlayerPro stats export looks like this:
<mediaitem>
<last-played>1297172931120</last-played>
<artist>A Guy Called Gerald</artist>
<track>People Moover</track>
<album>Tronic Jazz: The Berlin Sessio</album>
<duration/>
<rating>5</rating>
<play-count>1</play-count>
<skip-count>1</skip-count>
</mediaitem>

The problem is, i simply don't have the time to spend on this, so... can anyone help with this? If we can adjust the LastFMImport.vbs script in this way, i'm pretty sure this will bridge the gap between android and MM. To any of you scripters out there, please help!

Also, if you are the dev of the script, please reply!

Thoughts?

markstuartwalker wrote:How does the Android appear to windows? By drive letter? If so it would be very easy to read and process a file from a drive letter and process the playcount information.

Could you draft out the formation of such a file? I'm guessing that it could simply be a track ID reference followed by the time and date that it was played on...

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yes it uses the generic usb dll to sync the device, so grabbing the file from the file system would be the easy bit. It's getting it into the sync process that's the problem. If the file was put into the root of the sync folder, the player app would need to know it's location (configurable option?) so that it could log the plays.

The file structure you posted would be something like that yes, but would hopefully include a skip count (possibly to use in autorate script custom field? or MM4's forthcoming internal field). Maybe rating too, but that would require an android app that supported a rating.

How does the Android appear to windows? By drive letter? If so it would be very easy to read and process a file from a drive letter and process the playcount information.

Could you draft out the formation of such a file? I'm guessing that it could simply be a track ID reference followed by the time and date that it was played on...

i'm using autorate script to build the ratings. I was thinking of letting that work them out as if the tracks were played in MM.