Re: 1299 "Filenames + Path" redundancy [6803]

by **Lowlander** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:00 am

I doubt anyone gets confused when seeing Filenames + Path. And Path in other parts includes Filename for convenience. So although there might a technical inconsistency it's more user friendly the way it has been implemented in MediaMonkey.

by **chrisjj** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:57 am

> As you seem to support the former

I support clear labelling. Because MM uses "Path" to include filename in e.g. track list, in "Filenames + path" is confusing and by that same meaning "Filenames" is reducdant and "Path" partially so.

by **nohitter151** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:42 am

Agreed with Lowlander. The terminology "Foldernames" that you suggest is never used in MM. Path is more consistent with the rest of MM (column naming, track properties window, etc.).

by **Lowlander** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:30 am

If you believe that Path excludes Filename then Path + Filename is correct. If you believe Path includes Filename then Filename is redundant in Path + Filename.

As you seem to support the former I don't know why you seek a change in terminology as Path is the term used in MediaMonkey.

by **chrisjj** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:23 am

Lowlander wrote: Huh??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_(computing)
Path includes the filename as well

Except when it does not: "A path, the general form of a filename or of a directory name, specifies a unique location in a file system"

by **Lowlander** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:17 am

chrisjj wrote:since path (e.g. on Track List) means Filepath i.e. includes filename.

chrisjj wrote:No. Filepath includes the filename - path may be only the folder path.

Huh??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_(computing)
Path includes the filename as well, thus using Filenames + Path is technically redundant. I think in the context its used its a better option. Path should be used as its term used throughout MediaMonkey and the addition of Filenames is good as it better shows what it will do in comparison with the Filenames option only. I suggest things remain as they are.

However I do think there is one inconsistency. If Filenames is plural then Path should be written in plural as well.

by **chrisjj** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:24 am

nohitter151 wrote:That's not inaccurate. Maybe a little redundant, but not inaccurate.

Good point - Subject amended.

by **chrisjj** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:21 am

Lowlander wrote:Folders would be less clear as some geographies use the term directories instead of folders.

Surely MM policy is to use folders not directories.

Lowlander wrote:Filename is redundant as path includes the filename

No. Filepath includes the filename - path may be only the folder path.

by **Lowlander** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:15 am

Folders would be less clear as some geographies use the term directories instead of folders.

Filename is redundant as path includes the filename, but I think it serves its purpose as more people will understand it this way.

by **nohitter151** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:58 pm

That's not inaccurate. Maybe a little redundant, but not inaccurate.

by **chrisjj** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:00 pm

On Options > Library > Infer track properties, "Filenames + Path" should read "... Filenames + Foldernames", since path (e.g. on Track List) means Filepath i.e. includes filename.

by **chrisjj** » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:58 pm

> Also, on Options > Library > Infer track properties, "Filenames + Path" should read "...
> Filenames + Foldernames", since path (e.g. on Track List) means Filepath i.e. includes filename.

Persists on 1299. Reported seperately at http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =7&t=53987

by **chrisjj** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:50 pm

> Topic "Library Configuration" says
>
> . Click the Advanced button in the 'Add Folders' dialog,
> . or the File > Options > Library menu.

Fixed in 1256 (removed from Help).

> Also, on Options > Library > Infer track properties, "Filenames + Path" should read "...
> Filenames + Foldernames", since path (e.g. on Track List) means Filepath i.e. includes filename.

Persists on 1256.

by **chrisjj** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:27 pm

OK! Thanks.

by **Peke** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:14 pm

I agree, but sometimes you need to do that and phpBB solve this in that way by using CODE

I think that something like this in dedicated Topics will not make any confusion:

Code: Select all

Here is example of My Tree:
------------------------
- Library
 + Hardisk 1
 - Hardisk 2
  + Documents and Setting
  + Program Files
  + ......
 + Hardisk 3

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