Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

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Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by Eyal » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:38 am

@gpswaney,
Try Silence Between Songs plugin: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=42775
An update to this script to work with MM4 will be available soon.

:~)

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by gpswaney » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:51 pm

I have been working with MM for some time trying to figure out details before I start building my library. For classical music (my main genre), I have the CD gaps appended to previous track files, which, if you configure the output plug-in properly, will play the CD with gaps just as in the original.

I find it mildly disturbing that the track times displayed in MM include these gaps and therefore don't agree with the original album track times. CD players usually go into a negative count-down once they enter the gap. I would like to get MM to duplicate this behavior, but so far I can't.

Using the "Stop Time" track property would just skip the gap, (which might work for those who want gapless) and is not useful for me.

The database has SongData fields called "PostGap" and "PreGap". I tried manipulation of PostGap (was set to -1 initially), but it seems to have no effect. The wiki doesn't define what this field is or does. Anybody know?

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by qrobur » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:33 pm

Rather than start a new topic I'm adding to this one.

I have MM4 Gold installed on my main machine and gapless playback (that is, using the the MediaMonkey DirectSound output and removing the silence between tracks with crossfade turned off) works seamlessly. However, I have a netbook with the exact same settings and the same library. On this machine gapless playback is *not* seamless. There's a distinct gap of a second or so between tracks that play without a gap on my main machine. I also have Foobar2000 on the netbook and gapless playback works flawlessly for the tracks that MM4 cannot play seamlessly. These tracks are all mp3s.

I appreciate my main machine is a more powerful one than my netbook, but if Foobar can manage gapless playback properly on the latter why can't MM4?

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by nohitter151 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:55 pm

silver180 wrote:No it doesn't. Just jiggered the thing 8 wasy from Sunday and I can reduce the gap on classical recordings, but IT IS NOT SEAMLESS. :x
If it doesn't work, you need to provide more details. What type of files you are playing, which output plugin, etc. Gapless playback works fine for me, and there's no reason it shouldn't work for anyone.

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by silver180 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:08 pm

No it doesn't. Just jiggered the thing 8 wasy from Sunday and I can reduce the gap on classical recordings, but IT IS NOT SEAMLESS. :x

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by nohitter151 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:21 am

ryanryanryan wrote:PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE



we need gapless playback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MM already has this.

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by ryanryanryan » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:53 am

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE



we need gapless playback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if iTunes has it working so should MM! :lol:

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by SimonORorke » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:31 pm

Actually I have just noticed that there is an add-on to insert a standard gap of a specified number of seconds of silence between tracks played: Silence Between Songs http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =2&t=42775. I will try it out. But I still think this should be a standard option of MediaMonkey.

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by SimonORorke » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:53 pm

I would like the opposite: an option for MediaMonkey to insert a standard gap of a specified number of seconds of silence between tracks played. I expect that such a feature would be popular amongst many listeners to genres such as classical and avant-garde, though perhaps of no interest to most listeners to genres such as dance, pop and rock.

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by Eyal » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:27 pm

adchez wrote:Okay everybody. I've figured it out. Gapless playback in MediaMonkey.

Tools > Options > Input Plugins

Select 'Monkey's Audio Player' v3.99 > Configure > Supress long passages of silence > Save > Ok

Done :wink:
True, but only for .APE files. Monkey's Audio Player refers to this lossless codec format: http://www.monkeysaudio.com
Do not confuse with MediaMonkey.

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by adchez » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:42 pm

There's always another way. lol

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by adchez » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:39 pm

Okay everybody. I've figured it out. Gapless playback in MediaMonkey.

Tools > Options > Input Plugins

Select 'Monkey's Audio Player' v3.99 > Configure > Supress long passages of silence > Save > Ok

Done :wink:

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by rovingcowboy » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:48 am

trip up of the drums could be showing you that there is too small of system L2 catch setting. or too small of a page file setting.

might also be caused by your buffer setting, you have windows media player in your system? if not then add wmp 11 or newer. go to its options and use the direct sound plug in that it has to set the buffer settings. this might help with the MMdirect sound plug in.

also might just be you need to get the directx updated on your system. they just released new update for directx back about 2 weeks ago. you should look for it on microsoft.com/downloads.

:D

Re: Gapless / Non-Gapless playback behaviour

by nohitter151 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:39 pm

Gapless playback works fine for me if crossfade is disabled with the default MM plugins on LAME encoded mp3 files as well as for flac files.

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by zomf » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:10 pm

jiri wrote:MM 3.0 has some improvements in this area (at least an easy switch between crossfading and gapless playback). When a beta version is out (hopefully quite soon), please check it out and report back if you think anything else could be improved.

Jiri
I'm still looking for gapless playback for the same reasons JimX stated. I've tried turning off cross fading, but that causes an abrubt transistion that catches my attention every song when listing to continuous mix albums. Cross fading will only go down to .5 seconds, which is still noticable (I can hear the drums trip up).

My expectation is that I can't tell when one track ends and the next begins.

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