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Re: back to MM4 but still various issues [#8314]

by Ludek » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:33 am

Yes, it will be fixed in 1427 together with some other issues, but we are not ready with this build yet.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues [#8314]

by rovingcowboy » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:42 am

he means he fixed in 1427 he believes so would you confirm it when he releases that next update. :D

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues [#8314]

by WimYogya » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:26 am

Ok, but the newest I can find online is 1426.
1427 not landed yet?

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues [#8314]

by rusty » Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:44 am

Fixed in build 1427. Please confirm.

Thanks.

-Rusty

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:52 am

Hi, the crash log you have sent me really indicates some problems, it will be fixed as http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8314

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by WimYogya » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:27 am

Not sure why it cannot be sent (in my case and for most of users it can be sent), I guess that a firewall / Anti-spyware or anti-virus could block it.
That theory would make sense if the message can NEVER be sent, but from time to time it can - without any change in my settings.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:55 pm

Yes, I see that option and it has always been checked. But what does it DO? I never came across the 'Rip CD in MediaMonkey' option when i inserted a CD. And I always run MM as administrator (at least: I am the only user of this computer, so I run ALL apps always as Admin, right?)
If you use Windows 7 or Windows Vista then you might not have enough rights even if you are the only user on the cumputer. Right-click MediaMonkey.exe and select 'Run as administrator' then go to Options->OS Integration, uncheck the checkbox, click [OK], go again to Options->OS Integration, check the checkbox, click [OK] and insert the CD.
This is related to bug http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8142 that was fixed recently.
Ok, will do that if necessary, but that leaves the question unanswered: how come that so often error messages can not be sent, without a clear reason. I have no firewalls blocking it, and on other times sending is flawless. Will send you a few debug view logs with my description.
Not sure why it cannot be sent (in my case and for most of users it can be sent), I guess that a firewall / Anti-spyware or anti-virus could block it.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by WimYogya » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:37 pm

Did you check
Options -> OS Integration -> Show AutoPlay actions for -> [x] Audio CD Ripping ?
This item is corresponding to show 'Rip CD in MediaMonkey' option when you insert an audio CD.
If the item is checked and it doesn't work then try to run MM as administrator and re-check it.
Yes, I see that option and it has always been checked. But what does it DO? I never came across the 'Rip CD in MediaMonkey' option when i inserted a CD. And I always run MM as administrator (at least: I am the only user of this computer, so I run ALL apps always as Admin, right?)
I you couldn't to send it for whatever reason (firewall blocking etc.) then you can find the crash log manually in the MM install folder as 'MediaMonkey.elf' file. Just send me the file.
Ok, will do that if necessary, but that leaves the question unanswered: how come that so often error messages can not be sent, without a clear reason. I have no firewalls blocking it, and on other times sending is flawless. Will send you a few debug view logs with my description.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:18 am

WimYogya wrote:@Ludek:
About autoplay: are we talking the same language? I asked for an auto-RIP option: insert a cd and MM automatically assumes I want those tracks in my library and rips/imports them, then ejects the cd. Cannot find this option in the OS integration option panel. Does it exist? Where?
If it exists, wouldn't it be more logical to put it (also) in the ripping option panel?
Did you check
Options -> OS Integration -> Show AutoPlay actions for -> [x] Audio CD Ripping ?
This item is corresponding to show 'Rip CD in MediaMonkey' option when you insert an audio CD.
If the item is checked and it doesn't work then try to run MM as administrator and re-check it.
New (double) issue - but in fact a very old couple, often reported:
● I Was starting MM, as instructed it monitored 2 folders and started importing around 300+ files. While doing that MM crashed, an error window popped up saying something like 'index list out of boundary' (or something).
● I was asked what I was doing, I wrote that, clicked on send, the send progress bar opened, then when done a first error message popped up (ht... 1219 or so?), followed by a second one 'message not successfully sent'
I you couldn't to send it for whatever reason (firewall blocking etc.) then you can find the crash log manually in the MM install folder as 'MediaMonkey.elf' file. Just send me the file.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by WimYogya » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:05 pm

@Ludek:
About autoplay: are we talking the same language? I asked for an auto-RIP option: insert a cd and MM automatically assumes I want those tracks in my library and rips/imports them, then ejects the cd. Cannot find this option in the OS integration option panel. Does it exist? Where?
If it exists, wouldn't it be more logical to put it (also) in the ripping option panel?

About logging: every time I think 'this time logging is useless, i only want to do a few things'. but then as mr.Murphy already taught us, problems come my way.
When I plan a longer session and have more time I will log it.

Sluggish peformance can happen anytime, but so far I only found the one related to ripping and editing at the same time.

New (double) issue - but in fact a very old couple, often reported:
● I Was starting MM, as instructed it monitored 2 folders and started importing around 300+ files. While doing that MM crashed, an error window popped up saying something like 'index list out of boundary' (or something).
● I was asked what I was doing, I wrote that, clicked on send, the send progress bar opened, then when done a first error message popped up (ht... 1219 or so?), followed by a second one 'message not successfully sent'

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:52 am

The autoplay options are available in Options->OS Integration panel.

Otherwise yes, ripping is notorious resources consumer, so let me know if the suggested change in Options->Performance helps.
If you computer is sluggish also if you are not ripping and no CD is inserted then generate the debug log as I suggested in one of the earlier posts. From the log I could see what might cause the slowdowns.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by WimYogya » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:31 am

Glad I gave at lease ONE useful hint to locate some problem ;)
Hopefully it leads to a fix too!

As to performance: no, it is not only sluggish when ripping, but ripping seems to be a very notorious resources consumer.
I will try to change the settings when ripping again.

Talking about ripping, does MM intend to create an 'autorip option', i.e. you just put a cd in the drive and MM automatically rips and imports this?
iTunes had that feature - it is one of the few I am missing, here in MM.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:04 am

@ludek:
Maybe you should experiment a bit with my DB file in combination with ripping cd's?
You seem to be right, I have just got a freeze when I tried to rip a CD when using your MM.DB!

Fixed as http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=8287

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by Ludek » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:55 am

So your computer is sluggish only when you are ripping a CD? Otherwise you don't observe performance issues?
Maybe changing Options->Performance->Use multiple CPU cores->Ripping from [All] to [1]
and Priority for background tasks to [Lower] or [Lowest] could help.

Re: back to MM4 but still various issues

by WimYogya » Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:58 am

Can multitasking create problems?
I had to edit 3000 fields with RegExp Find & Replace, was working well till I started ripping a cd. Then the field editing was interrupted till finally the ripping was done, then the editing continued.
But later I found that 4 of the ripped tracks were dead links, had to re-import them again.
That failed: after 3 of the 4 tracks were converted, the ripping process 'hang' forever. With high CPU and memory usage, but with no CD drive activity (no light blinking).
Terminating the ripping task was impossible, ejecting the cd did not change the task.
When I finally stopped MM, I found (again!) hidden error messages, hidden behind the main window.
One said that 1 of the files was not successfully created.
The other error message said that another file, track 15's temp file, could not be deleted, access denied, may not enough rights or in use.
Removing or closing these error messages was impossible: none of the options was accepted, nor did the x button work.
Only forced shutdown of MM made them disappear.

@ludek:
Maybe you should experiment a bit with my DB file in combination with ripping cd's?

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