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solved > full resynch on android

by dr_snuggles » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:26 pm

ok guys i think i found out what issued the complete android resynch here.
when mm is running and i plug the device, mm will immediately try accessing the storage, whether the system can access it or not.
so it finds nothing.
when enabling data transfer on the device (mm still running) and browse the folders within mm itll show all files there.
when hitting autosynch all is transferred though.

so a simple mm restart forces it to reread the device and perform incremmental synch.
easy 2 reproduce

if thats the cause maybe devs will consider a small fix to check if the device storage is accessible before attempting to read a list.
dr_snuggles wrote:furthermore the supported format setup could be expanded / reworked.
examplewise my android audioplayer (deadbeef) is capable of playing back lots of formats that the monkey will convert, as i cant specify the format as supported. if i leave compatible formats blank all is synched as is. i need to specify some formats as wma and m4a aint supported.
to make it short, the input_plugin added formats could appear in the synch format setup screen as well. just to name some: it, hvl, s3m, sid...
cheers >_-

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by rrfpacker » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:41 pm

Great to hear.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by westi2002 » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:32 am

sync was OK, both ratings and last played were updated for all played files

So probably deleting everything from the ipod and syncing from the start was the solution

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by westi2002 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:01 pm

Lowlander wrote: The fact that it shows more audio than device can hold and the strange way information is presented in this dialog has been discussed before:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... sync+audio

See:
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As you can see Audio is way larger than Device Capacity as I've select way more files to be synced than the Device can hold. This doesn't mean files won't be synced though, but you'll see a warning about exceeding Device Capacity and be asked to continue or not. If you continue it will sync whatever it can.
In my case (capacity ipod is 148.8 GB, audio selected 176.9 GB) I do not get an error message, since all files I have is about 120GB. I have selected several playlist and all accessible tracks, so maybe MM summarizes it all together?
rrfpacker wrote:I deleted all music on each device and started over. Small price to pay to use the excellent Media Monkey.
I did it just before I left on a trip yesterday. Will let you know if it helped when I'm back.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by rrfpacker » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:40 pm

From what I can tell you have the settings correct and MM should only be auto-syncing anything you change. If that's not happening, then as he said, you need to send a debug log.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by Lowlander » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:56 pm

That should already happen if you're always using Auto-Sync. When it doesn't happen it is often due to modifications to the files or because a manual sync was used.

Try resetting the device (if possible and not too much hassle) and make sure no files are on the device. Setup a small playlist of 10-20 tracks to Auto-Sync. Auto-Sync, disconnect, connect, Auto-Sync. If it recopies all files you should send in a debug log (in other words start running DBGview before this whole process to capture all steps).

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by dr_snuggles » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:21 pm

yeah (didnt take a screen of that tab as its not relevant).
so i got 1 autolist based on ratings to synch.
q is how to only synch the unsynched tracks instead of all again.

regards

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by Lowlander » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:58 am

What you sync is set in the Auto-Sync Liste tab.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by dr_snuggles » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:59 am

This is exactly what MM does, if you configure your device correctly.
could u explain what u mean by correctly configuring the device?
i didnt see any further checkboxes , options to test. wiki wasnt really helpful and i dont really know what to try next.
all i want is to only synch what has to instead of all.

im using usbmass plugin for synching with following options enabled:
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btw enabled spoiler tag wont be a bad thing

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by rrfpacker » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:46 pm

@ lowlander:

Really, I am not even going to entertain that question. Seriously, that is just assinign. Of course I am not trying to sync more than what my device holds! To make matters worse, I get to my flight, plug in my headphones, and poof, MM4 didn't even add any music to the library! It confirmed their having synced on the device, but there I was. Thankfully Jet Blue is not as incompetent as MM; they had XM for me to listen to. Any answers? How about just a simple apology for their inability to provide a worthy consumer product to loyal customers?! COME ON MM!!!
MM will allow you to chose as much as you want to sync, it isn't going to think for you. If you have more chosen to sync than capacity, like Lowlander says, you will get a warning. Also, as I said in an earlier post, when I first tried to sync using MM4 it couldn't read my devices correctly and I kept getting the "not enought room on device" error. I deleted all music on each device and started over. Small price to pay to use the excellent Media Monkey.
Seriously, not a single mod response?! Here's the deal, MM4 doesn't interact with mod devices well AT ALL. I am wondering how hard it could possibly be to make the program do a hash comparison of files in the sync list (similar to de-nisting) and only add the necessary files not found on the initial sync library. I mean, that is from a guy who has zero programming knowledge here. The solutions are out there to fix this problem, all you have to do is find and apply them.
This is exactly what MM does, if you configure your device correctly.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by Lowlander » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:39 pm

It's always nice when users attack other users trying to help out.

The fact that it shows more audio than device can hold and the strange way information is presented in this dialog has been discussed before:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... sync+audio

See:
Image
As you can see Audio is way larger than Device Capacity as I've select way more files to be synced than the Device can hold. This doesn't mean files won't be synced though, but you'll see a warning about exceeding Device Capacity and be asked to continue or not. If you continue it will sync whatever it can.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by Guest » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:45 am

@ lowlander:

Really, I am not even going to entertain that question. Seriously, that is just assinign. Of course I am not trying to sync more than what my device holds! To make matters worse, I get to my flight, plug in my headphones, and poof, MM4 didn't even add any music to the library! It confirmed their having synced on the device, but there I was. Thankfully Jet Blue is not as incompetent as MM; they had XM for me to listen to. Any answers? How about just a simple apology for their inability to provide a worthy consumer product to loyal customers?! COME ON MM!!!

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by RD » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:38 am

Seriously, not a single mod response?! Here's the deal, MM4 doesn't interact with mod devices well AT ALL. I am wondering how hard it could possibly be to make the program do a hash comparison of files in the sync list (similar to de-nisting) and only add the necessary files not found on the initial sync library. I mean, that is from a guy who has zero programming knowledge here. The solutions are out there to fix this problem, all you have to do is find and apply them.

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by westi2002 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:09 pm

also sync the other way is not correct
after playing 74 songs on my ipod, only 23 of them had changed last played date in MM4

Re: Major issues with the newest version

by dr_snuggles » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:59 pm

cheers, as described in initial post the synching kinda sucks when there r 10 new songs to synch and the whole list ist copied instead grabbing the info what is on the device and whats not. i cant proof that all is copied (and converted) again, it just lasts a feeled eternity for 'only' 300 songs. (20 mins for 1.5 gb)
a autogenerated list while synch process indicating what should be there (synch playlist m3u which is transferred) and a quick scan on what is there (relative paths from that m3us) followed by a comparison and finally the synch process would solve that.

furthermore the supported format setup could be expanded / reworked.
examplewise my android audioplayer (deadbeef , on my gingerbread x8) is capable of playing back lots of formats that the monkey will convert, as i cant specify the format as supported. if i leave compatible formats blank all is synched as is. i need to specify some formats as wma and m4a aint supported.
to make it short, the input_plugin added formats could appear in the synch format setup screen as well. just to name some: spc, xm, mod, vgm...

would be great to see this improving.
im using build 1476 in portable mode

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