Can't play videos? (but I hear them)

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:25 pm

well I know we derailed from the topic; but at least we know MMW is still serving up properly

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:33 pm

Lowlander wrote:Chromecast is HDMI and runs a Google OS. Plair runs Android and there are some other Android solutions as well. These solutions normally allow Google Play apps which makes them really versatile.

Yeah I was looking at Android TV (similar to Plair) Chromecast isn't that great because it doesn't allow DLNA and didn't realize till after I posted that it was HDMI which is nice too

I'm definitely thinking about an Android TV appliance; since it works with the play market very well there's a lot of good apps I could use on it.

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:29 pm

Chromecast is HDMI and runs a Google OS. Plair runs Android and there are some other Android solutions as well. These solutions normally allow Google Play apps which makes them really versatile.

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:18 pm

Oh, I like the idea of chromecast; its USB but the USB on the receiver is for photos/music; I don't know that I can run an OS off it (I can on the TV though) if I could run chromecast off the receiver that's really the way I'd go.

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:46 pm

I saw this; someone mentioned using xbmc here in this thread;

http://imx.solid-run.com/product/cubox-i4-pro/ for $130 I don't have to build it and it comes with xbmc

and I'd have to program a remote to work with it since it doesn't come with its own.

This is starting to look better than the Boxee in terms of my needs since boxee is kind of in remission right now and getting a replacement remote is next to impossible thanks to Samsung who shelved it as they usually do with new acquisitions.

This AVR stuff is getting to be very expensive considering I'm not getting what I need; so I will have to convince the store to order me the one I want even though its not the brand they carry (I can order it myself but I want to see if the store can get it for me without more cost).

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:14 pm

Lowlander wrote:It would seem to be the case that it doesn't: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_580TXN727/ ... 0Functions

Check if Boxee supports DLNA (it seems it initially didn't) as you may be able to order the remote separately. I know that Roku doesn't. You also have other solutions you can check out like ChromeCast and Plair. I haven't tried any, but it seems Plair supports the Google Play store allowing you to install any DLNA client including MediaMonkey for Android. Most game consoles will also be able to act as DLNA client and if you're lucky your TV can as well.

My TV will; I can play video from there; but no sound will go through the receiver as its HDMI out only; the smart TV portion isn't connected to any particular input so audio isn't routed via HDMI

I haven't had the boxee up and running in awhile so I will check it out but I thought it supported DLNA but it was pretty slow IIRC

I don't really need all those features of the boxee anymore since my smart TV and PCs can handle it all now. I'd rather get something smaller and only just does DLNA directly to the AVR via HDMI

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:52 pm

It would seem to be the case that it doesn't: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_580TXN727/ ... 0Functions

Check if Boxee supports DLNA (it seems it initially didn't) as you may be able to order the remote separately. I know that Roku doesn't. You also have other solutions you can check out like ChromeCast and Plair. I haven't tried any, but it seems Plair supports the Google Play store allowing you to install any DLNA client including MediaMonkey for Android. Most game consoles will also be able to act as DLNA client and if you're lucky your TV can as well.

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:43 pm

khelsing wrote:
mynetdude wrote: very positive; here's quote from manual
MPEG-4 AAC Pz2

As you're probably referring to this file type: it's not a video format but an audio codec.

The whole section of the manual you posted deals with audio only; in fact it looks as though the Denon doesn't do video over DLNA.

ahhh well that makes SOME sense; ok... gotcha I see well I kinda find it silly that it won't play videos considering its an AVR; its designed to do both audio AND video isn't it not?

so... what do I use to play the video?! Boxee? (I have it; just no HDMI cable or remote; I can't find my remote)

while we're on the topic of DLNAs if what all this comes down to that the Denon can't play videos (I'd highly doubt the Onkyo AVRs will either) I'm considering keeping the PLEX server up; and having MMW scan files from the server rather than the network location (not mapped drive) that way I don't have to worry if the PC is online or not and I can stream from it (or download the music; etc and I believe the Media Monkey for Android will do the same thing)

Well thanks for the simple yet futile effort to get it to work

by **khelsing** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:35 pm

mynetdude wrote: very positive; here's quote from manual
MPEG-4 AAC Pz2

As you're probably referring to this file type: it's not a video format but an audio codec.

The whole section of the manual you posted deals with audio only; in fact it looks as though the Denon doesn't do video over DLNA.

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:32 pm

No video formats are listed, I'm sure it can play only audio and photos.

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:24 pm

Lowlander wrote:Are you sure it can play videos? By the sound of it it doesn't.

very positive; here's quote from manual

Important information
• The network audio playback function of this unit connects to the server using technologies shown below.
• Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service
• Windows Media DRM10
• File types that this unit can play back and specifications are shown below.
GSupported file typesH
Supported file types Media Server z1
WMA (Windows Media Audio) P
MP3 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer-3) P
WAV P
MPEG-4 AAC Pz2
FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) P
JPEG P
ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec) P
A server or server software compatible with distribution in the corresponding formats is required to play
music files via a network.
z1 Media Server
• This unit is compatible with MP3 ID3-Tag (Ver. 2) standard.
• This unit can show the artwork that was embedded by using MP3 ID3-Tag Ver. 2.3 or 2.4.
• This unit is compatible with WMA META tags.
• If the image size (pixels) of an album artwork exceeds 500 × 500 (WMA/MP3/WAV/FLAC) or 349 ×
349 (MPEG-4 AAC), then music may not be played back properly.
• WAV format Quantization bit length: 16 or 24 bits.
• FLAC format Quantization bit length: 16 or 24 bits.
z2 Only files that are not protected by copyright can be played on this unit.
Content downloaded from pay sites on the Internet are copyright protected. Also, files encoded in
WMA format when ripped from a CD, etc. on a computer may be copyright protected, depending on
the computer’s settings.

the "p"s are actually checkmarks (that's what I see in the manual)

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:15 pm

No mention of video: http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVRE400 ... tFunctions

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:12 pm

Are you sure it can play videos? By the sound of it it doesn't.

by **mynetdude** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:09 pm

Lowlander wrote:Sounds like the Denon doesn't support your MP4 files. A debug log may (but may not) show more.

Just checked the manual;

it will play .mp4 (AAC) it won't play .wmv but it will play .wma

it'll also play a lot of other audio formats such as FLAC, mp3 and some of the apple proprietary formats but it won't play protected media (copyrighted media) we'll get into that later.

UPDATE: Denon won't play videos from MM; my TV will so having that conversion disabled helps I think

by **Lowlander** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:51 pm

Sounds like the Denon doesn't support your MP4 files. A debug log may (but may not) show more.

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