Songs only in alphabetical order?

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Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by khelsing » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:10 am

Eric F wrote: When I tried another UPnp player (default music player on HTC), they listed by track order under all options. To me, appears to be an issue with MMA.
It most likely is. According to UPnP-AV standards the sorting should be done by the media server, but the client has to submit the sort criteria if it wants a specific order (see section 2.3.19 of http://upnp.org/specs/av/UPnP-av-Conten ... ervice.pdf). Other than HTC's app MMA apparently does not submit sort criteria and the server therefore returns an alphabetically sorted list.

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by Eric F » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:12 pm

I have the same issue when streaming UPnp from a WMP media server - the songs are listed in alphabetical order, not track order. I discovered if I viewed them from "server name"/music/folders, they are in track order, but if I use All Artists, Album Artists, Albums, ext, they are listed in alphabetical order. When I tried another UPnp player (default music player on HTC), they listed by track order under all options. To me, appears to be an issue with MMA. It would be great to change how the files are listed.

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:01 pm

Ok, sounds like a plan. Thanks Ruby

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by rusty » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:47 pm

In the future, when we add Sorting to MMA, we could also allow custom sorting of UPnP content . Added this feedback to:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=11293

Thanks.

-Rusty

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:33 pm

Researching this today I discovered that the Seagate orders tracks by time stamp. I deduce that if I had ripped my CDs directly to the server they would be time stamped in track order but because they were ripped to PC and then copied to NAS, they were copied alphabetically and thus time stamped in that order, which is why MM gets them in what appears to be alphabetical order. Apparently Seagate sees nothing strange in this....

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:53 pm

If I access the drive using Seagate's media app the files are in track order. Seems there is a trade off here between user friendliness (MM) or track order (seagateh

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by Lowlander » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:38 pm

You should check with Seagate if there is anything that can be done about the sort order of Albums served over DLNA. They may have already fixed the issue or you may need to tag files properly to get this working.

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:36 pm

Haha, ok, pedantically yes. That wasn't intended as a slight on MMA. It was the'in this way' part that was most relevant, not the'using MMA' part.
Whatever, ultimately the result is the same:- I can't play my tracks in numerical order

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by Lowlander » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:33 pm

cheavey wrote:So, I think I'm concluding that what I'm being told here is that by using MMA to access my media in the way I do, I will only be able to play the tracks in alphabetical order.
No, by using the Seagate Media Server this is the case as it serves the Album alphabetically.

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:53 am

OK, thanks I am not using MMW as a server. I have MMW on my desktop PC but I use the NAS hard drive as the server - there seems little point turning on my PC specially when the media is available on the NAS which is running anyway.

So, I think I'm concluding that what I'm being told here is that by using MMA to access my media in the way I do, I will only be able to play the tracks in alphabetical order.

Chris

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by dtsig » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:41 pm

For example, when I look at my buffalo nas through dlna and bring up an album. It is in alpha order. But when I bring up same from MMW (using mmA) it shows in track no order

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by dtsig » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:21 pm

No, I think what Lowlander means it is depends on how the server requests/delivers the tracks. For example, I believe if you use the MMW as the server you should see the tracks in track no order when looking at the albums

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Ok I have a Seagate networked drive which Media Monkey Android can see and play albums from. But it always plays the tracks in alphabetical order. Are you saying this means they must be Alphabetically sorted on the hard drive?

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by Lowlander » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Are you saying you're playing from UPnP? That's an important distinction as UPnP has the file order determined by the server and not MMA. What UPnP server are you using?

Re: Songs only in alphabetical order?

by cheavey » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:40 pm

I am still trying to work out how to play an album in track order. Playing alphabetically just doesn't make sense. I have the latest version of MMA but it still doesn't do this. (Up n p, by the way)

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