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Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:49 pm

Instead of using the registry it writes settings to file, you're also missing the taskbar player option.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by daztrue » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:40 pm

Lowlander wrote:A Portable Install won't integrate with Windows
Can you elaborate on that?
Lowlander wrote:(it might be wise to install as Portable on a local drive and if needed use a DB on the NAS)
If I do that, would I follow the same procedure of moving the DB and INI file (including editing path) as with regular version in order that I can access on NAS from multiple PCs?

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:24 am

1) As long as you install in separate locations you can have a regular and several portable installs on the same machine. For simultaneous running you'll need to allow multiple instances in each install (Tools > Options > General).

2) A Portable Install won't integrate with Windows, which is the main limitation. I actually only run as Portable.

3) No need, but you can, just like with the regular version. (it might be wise to install as Portable on a local drive and if needed use a DB on the NAS)

4) Yes, as long as they're installed in different folders.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by daztrue » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:53 am

Lowlander wrote:No need to move ini to start with a new DB
I realise that. I was trying to recall at what point to move and edit it in order to have it on my NAS with the DB, though I think I've found the wiki link I was originally given. Of course there's also the editing of the Target field in the shortcut:
"<Program path>" /INIFILE="<New INI file path>"
Lowlander wrote:Install as Portable and it will use its own DB
Peke wrote:Each portable installation uses own DB so basically if you enable Multiple Instances of MMW (Tools -> General) you can have multiple MMW started with Different DB
Good to know! I don't think the portable info was in the above link when I set up databases on my NAS for different user accounts so they could access from different PCs. Does that mean the following:
1) If I select Portable next time there's an upgrade will the existing installation on Windows remain the same whilst installing Portable where I choose?
2) Are there any restrictions or limitations with Portable?
3) Is there any need (or even possible) to edit INI file with Portable?
4) Is it only possible to have multiple instances of Portable by installing second copy to different location? Tools>Options>General feature mentioned seems futile in regular MM as just opens same DB.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Peke » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:45 pm

Add to above:

Each portable installation uses own DB so basically if you enable Multiple Instances of MMW (Tools -> General) you can have multiple MMW started with Different DB

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:14 pm

1) No need to move ini to start with a new DB.

2) Install as Portable and it will use its own DB.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by daztrue » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:51 pm

Terrific! I've moved the DB before but needed a refresher! The same goes for the new INI file: how and at what point should I move it, as I have both on my NAS?

Also, if I can open MM twice to view two DB then how is this done? Surely opening the second installation would open the same DB as the first or create a new one, thus denying the opportunity to select a second DB to open?

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:56 pm

It will create a new one in the default locations. So if you want a custom location you need to set it up again: http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/inde ... e-location

Re: Media Tree not updating

by daztrue » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:31 pm

Thanks for the link. Informative.
Lowlander wrote:MediaMonkey will automatically create the new DB if the old on can't be found (moved/deleted)
Will it create it in the MM.db default directory or allow me to choose? Or do I have to move it and the INI file like before? And do I need to delete the original INI file and allow a new one to be created?

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:54 pm

1) See: http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... erties/4.0

2) Simultaneous is not possible (unless you're running 2 MM installs), however you can copy/move the old one for backup, then have MM create a new one.

3) MediaMonkey will automatically create the new DB if the old on can't be found (moved/deleted).

4) That's just the way they store that information.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by daztrue » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:29 am

Lowlander wrote:A new database won't have your Playlists, Play History and unsaved tags (most tags are saved by default for most formats).
Since beginning this thread and last posting I've done little with my database, but have finally accepted (as you said!) that I'll need to create a new one. But can you clarify whether tags are saved to the following formats: FLAC, MP3, M4A, M4P? Also, are ratings and comments saved as tags to these formats?

I'd prefer to secure a new database before deleting the existing one, but I can't seem to find a way to open/create another database. How is this done, can I have them open simultaneously, and can I choose where a new database is created or is it created in its default directory?

Also, will I need to create a second INI file - if so, how - or do I have to edit the existing one?

Finally, from symptoms previously mentioned, would it definately be the database and not the INI file that is corrupted? If so, why are there a few settings with many lines of what appear to the layman as random characters?

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DefaultViewSettings=21464C5421E180860000D18001D48001DC8001E1808001E1848001E0B08001E0B48001E1A88001E1AC8001E1888001E0B88001E1988001E2988002E1B08002E1B48002E1B88002E19C8001E2948002E29C8002E2A08002E1908001E0A08002E0BC8001E2A48002E1A08002E1A48002D88002E2B08002E2848002E2888002E28C8002E2908002E2B48002E2B88002E1948002E0A48002E18C8002E1BC8002E2848002E0AC8002E2A...(continues for many lines)

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:05 am

No, removing the database would seem to be the last recourse and that will result in the loss of Play History and Playlists (regular ones can be exported, but AutoPlaylists can't).

You could attempt to manually remove entries (right click > Remove), but this may prove tedious if it works.

I'd suggest updating, although as you likely have a database corruption it is unlikely to resolve the problem.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by flying monkey » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:40 am

I am using 4.1.5.1719. Should I update now?
Is there a way to get rid of the corrupt database without losing my ratings, history, and playlists?
I have playlists based on playcounts and hate to screw those up.

Re: Media Tree not updating

by Lowlander » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:45 pm

flying monkey wrote:Beginning to think this is the intended behavior of the MM library - lose nothing.
No, only entries with files associated should be shown in the Media Tree. Somewhere you have a database corruption that causes this problem. Are you on MediaMonkey 4.1.6?

Re: Media Tree not updating

by flying monkey » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:39 pm

Ahhh...I get it. So, Music and Podcast nodes are filters while Playlists, Media servers, etc. aren't. Kind of confusing, but I get it.

There is nothing in Dead Links as all tracks by the ghost artists were deleted from the library first before I did anything to the files.
I just don't understand why these artists and album stay in the library without any songs by/in them.
Beginning to think this is the intended behavior of the MM library - lose nothing.
If you don't want to see them, you have to filter them out. Otherwise this is a huge bug.

I pressed OK after choosing optimize database (complete). No changes at all.
But as I said, no problem as long as I don't look at Entire Library.

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