Transfering to Creative Zen MicroPhoto fails (Windows 2000)

by **Guest** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:18 pm

I hadn't checked this thread in a while, but what a nice surprise it was when I upgraded to the newest version and all of a sudden I can synch my ZMP faster and better with MM in Win2k SP4. Thank you MM

by **robbo** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:27 am

I played around with the source of the plugin and found a solution. Then Jiri pointed out a simpeler solution

Just change some settings.

Look here:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 5994#55994

by **rusty** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:11 pm

If I understand correctly, MediaMonkey works correctly with the Microphoto on WinXP but not Windows 2000.

This stems from the fact that Creative doesn't officially support Windows 2000 for the device (at least from what I see on their website) and the device drivers for Windows 2000 are not from Creative.

I would gladly spend some time on debugging this, but only if the drivers were 'official'--otherwise we'd be spending time getting it to work with these drivers but then it would fail with another set of drivers.

-Rusty

by **robbo** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:07 am

jiri wrote:Just drop me an e-mail, I can send you sources for testing.

Jiri

jiri at mediamonkey.com?

You can probably see my email address in my profile here? You can use that.

Bigjohn wrote:Not being a programmer, I am having a hard time understanding why MM does not work while WMP 9 does... Don't they call the same DLLs that are part of the windows media synch process?

They probably do. But there are a lot of parameters you can/need to use when calling the api. It's possible that WMP9 uses other parameters than WMP10 and that Mediamonkey only knows of the WMP10 ones.

by **Bigjohn** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:03 am

Not being a programmer, I am having a hard time understanding why MM does not work while WMP 9 does... Don't they call the same DLLs that are part of the windows media synch process?

by **jiri** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:59 am

Just drop me an e-mail, I can send you sources for testing.

Jiri

by **robbo** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:27 am

No updates yet. Copying dll's from Win XP won't work. These files work together tightly with media player 10. No way you can get them to work on win2000.

imho there's one thing we can try: sync files without metadata like i described here:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 1876#51876
and here:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 1882#51882

I'm a delphi programmer so maybe i can make a modified d_WMDM.dll that doesn't transfer the metadata from the sources as suggested here by jiri:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 4087#54087

I haven't seen the sources yet so i don't know how difficult it is but it's worth a try.

by **dr_x** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:38 pm

Are there any updates/progress on this? I have a similar problem. Files seems to synch with MediaMonkey and I see them inside of media monkey when clicking on the Zen Microphoto, but when I look at the player, via the menus, I cannot see any of my files. Any help with this? It synchs fine with WMP9 (I have Win2K by the way and using Creative's own driver) but I hate WMP's interface and playlist management.

by **Peke** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:35 pm

As I allready told backuping of original DLL writing New One and in case it do not work rewriting old one should not screw anything I have done that 100 times even used that type of fix to save production PCs from reinstalling when more essencial DLL was damaged.
Althru I like to play with things esspecialy when there is a risk to scre*.
Fortunatly it never happend.

by **Bigjohn** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:47 pm

Peke wrote:It could solve the problem. Althru I can't garanitie 100%.

Search Internet for that DLL it should be findable/downlodable from somewhere.

And then you hav all you need.

Finding the DLLs would only solve half the problem... I don't have a 'non-production' Win2k machine I can screw with to test it...

by **Peke** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:08 pm

It could solve the problem. Althru I can't garanitie 100%.

Search Internet for that DLL it should be findable/downlodable from somewhere.

And then you hav all you need.

by **Bigjohn** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:04 am

While I'm the first goon to think of this, I don't have any XP machines from which to get those DLL's, nor do I have a computer that I could "sacrifice" to the task...

Though I'd love to know if that possibly fixes this problem for good!

by **Peke** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:23 pm

@BigJohn
Use Safe Mode, Backup DLLs somewhere copy new ones
load Win Normaly
use regsvr32 <Dllname> to reg server if needed.
all should work when you back original dlls back.

Safe mode do not load most of DLLs so this should be same
owerwriting without backup is dangerous.

by **Bigjohn** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:58 am

jiri wrote:
I think the important point here is that if WMP 9 can do it then MM should be able to do it.
This isn't necessarily truth, we are dependant on WMDM and WMP 9 doesn't have to use it, it possibly uses some workarounds or tricks we can't.

Jiri

Don't say "can't", Jiri... say "have not discovered yet"

What about copying the XP versions of those DLLs to a win2k machine? If mine was not critical, I would try... I don't have a spare machine I can play with...

by **jiri** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:28 am

I think the important point here is that if WMP 9 can do it then MM should be able to do it.

This isn't necessarily truth, we are dependant on WMDM and WMP 9 doesn't have to use it, it possibly uses some workarounds or tricks we can't.

Jiri

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