Ditch the Freedb and use Cddb

by **Lowlander** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:54 pm

Alternatives are being looked into: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=1597

by **Eli** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:46 am

The CDDB/Gracenote is far from having the best metadata. AMG is better, GD3 is good, musicbrainz is alright, and freedb passes. The thing is that none of them are perfect. The best solution, IMHO is to use multiple resources:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17684

by **Rayi23** » Fri May 18, 2007 10:29 pm

[quote="NiteWatchman42"]I haven't yet tried MusicBrainz. I do like CDDB. I have been using MusicMatch since ver 3, and I mostly use it to Rip and Tag mp3z, ...... I want a program that handles a large collection; which MediaMonkey seems to handle much better than MusicMatch.

I also still use MusicMatch (7.5) for Rip and Tag; it does a decent job of locating the album cover as well. I also like it's overall organization and ease of use. Dragging mp3 files onto the the "Now Playing and Burn" window is easy. I especially like the way individual CD's collapse and expand. I favored version 7.5 and always felt it was the best and most stable version. I did notice that MusicMatch will handle larger collections if you turn off "watch folders". As the library got larger, it seemed to take alot of processing power to automatically enter the mp3. I started using MediaMonkey because it does CD text, as well as viewing mp3's within folders on a CD/DVD. But I never found it especially easy to use. It does seem that it is impossible to find one that has it all.

by **james.faction** » Tue May 01, 2007 4:32 pm

I've just done some testing with some more CDs, and I found MediaMonkey to be the thing that was lacking. I have another application for ripping CDs called Audiograbber, it also uses freedb.org to look up titles. It looks them up perfectly every time. Further, it will show you multiple matches for a CD if it finds them, which is fairly often, and allows you to select the correct one. However MediaMonkey tends to miss the occasional title - and never gives you any options.

This strongly suggests to me that freedb.org is not the problem, it's the way MediaMonkey looks up CDs which is the problem, and needs improving.

by **Steegy** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:44 am

Yeah, MusicBrainz is waaaaaay to overestimated anyway. It's like FreeDB isn't good anymore and people want something new to play with (although MB has great potential, it isn't there yet).

by **onkel_enno** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:15 am

I'm a fan of freedb too, love every open source project.

by **james.faction** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:16 pm

I thought freeDB is good? They allow you to submit an album if it can't be found.

I've copied lots of new CDs recently and it hasn't missed one yet.

by **Teknojnky** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:28 pm

MM can use Musicbrainz for CD look via the CDDB Gateway.

If Musicbrainz does not have the disc id or release, you can add it to MB yourself and then it will be available to MB and MM for all.

by **twodutys** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:21 pm

onkel_enno wrote:@twodutys
If you have a look at the cddb-setting of CDEx, you'll find out that CDEx uses freedb only too (My Version does it 1.50), it's only called cddb.

I stand corrected. However CDEx also uses WinampDB and MusicBrainz I see as well. Maybe that explains the reason it works better than searching with MediaMonkey? I'm using version 1.70 beta2. I need to do my home work before posting. I appologize.

by **NiteWatchman42** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:47 pm

I haven't yet tried MusicBrainz. I do like CDDB. I have been using MusicMatch since ver 3, and I mostly use it to Rip and Tag mp3z. MusicMatch uses CDDB for tagging. I strongly support the suggestion to incorporate CDDB searches for ID3 tagging.

I just started using MediaMonkey. So far, I like it. But I am looking for that one program that does it all when it comes to my music collection. I want a program that handles a large collection; which MediaMonkey seems to handle much better than MusicMatch. I want a program that will tag, organize, and get rid of duplicates; MediaMonkey seems to be doing a good job with that, except I would like more customization to how things will be organized. I currently have my collection broken down by genre\sub-genre\Artist\Year-Album. EXAMPLE... Rock\_Heavy Metal\Iron Maiden\1982 - The Number Of The Beast. CDDB really helps with getting that sub-genre category right.

by **mattisse** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:41 am

The original CDDB (now Gracenote CDDB) is free for non-commercial software developments only. For others they charge a fee.

The freeDB seems to quickly loose relevancy after Magix bought it. It's missing lots of recent releases already.

In my opinion, musicbrainz will become the leading Music DB soon (if it isn't already). The Releases there are more up-to-date and the data quality is much better since users can object any edits.

by **onkel_enno** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:15 am

@twodutys
If you have a look at the cddb-setting of CDEx, you'll find out that CDEx uses freedb only too (My Version does it 1.50), it's only called cddb.

by **Guest** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:43 am

then stop your hounding and go answer some unanswer'ed questions. people are waiting for your help.

by **pah68** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:37 am

Surely signing in would have been quicker than that signature

by **Guest** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:17 am

search the forum for freedb posts you will see sometime ago there was asked a question of which to use.

and you will see there is two freedb's unless the one is gone now.? leaving the second one.

but cddb last i heard was not free anymore. maybe i heard wrong but i don't believe i did.?

junglemonkey / rovingcowboy / keith hall. / and some times guest. like now

is that alright for you pah68?

Ditch the Freedb and use Cddb

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