Problems with Ipod after sync

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Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:16 pm

Hi,
I see. You are using the skinless version so unfortunately the "MediaMonkey (non-skinned).exe" was used instead of MediaMonkey.exe that I posted.
Therefore the symptoms are same as previous.

Nevertheless in the log I see that the AV occured while convertion these files:
D:\Media\Music\Air\The Virgin Suicides\03 Bathroom Girl.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Alex Smoke\Lux\06 Northwoods.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Air\The Virgin Suicides\07 Dirty Trip.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Compilations\fRoots 31\07 Yati.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Compilations\Toni Rios In The Mix - Secret Ingredient\05 Always And Forever.mp3

Could you please put just those 5 files into a playlist and send just the playlist with those 5 files to the iPod whether it will generate AV ?

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:08 am

Debug log below for:

ipod restored in itunes
opened MM
auto sync with conversion to m4a and all cores enabled
clicked through some AV warnings
eventual crash report and MM un-responsive
ended MM with task manager
ejected ipod using system dialogue
ipod shows no music


https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbhfgjftmhg5p ... 2.LOG?dl=0

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:09 am

No, the music has shown in most previous test. It is just the last test starting from empty without f_aac_codec.dll that the ipod appeared empty. I think it is a different problem.

I am unable to run further tests today as my pc is busy doing what it is supposed to rendering things. I did run one test but the debug log failed to save so I will have to wait until i can spare the time.

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:50 am

So If I understand correctly the issue is that (in all your tests?) the music isn't visible by the iPod?
I thought that it was just a consequence of the file conversions, but are you saying that that iPod has never seen the music synced by MediaMokney?
i.e. Even if you sync just several files then they are seen by MediaMonkey, but not by the iPod?

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:52 am

I cleared the ipod by selecting no files to sync and deleting all un-checked files.

I then ran a full sync with all cores enabled which ran fine for all 17000+ tracks but after ejecting the ipod it shows 'no music'

If i re-connect the ipod MM shows that it has all the tracks.

The ItunesDB file after sync is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/irihoetu2ktx8e7/iTunesDB?dl=0

I will now try a sync as you say above with the new version and the f_aac_codec.dll re-installed

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Yes, converting only on 1 CPU core takes long time and as I said this most probably isn't the issue (definetly not when the codec pack is uninstalled).
And also revising the f_aac_codec.dll shown that it should be thread safe.

Before the next test please replace you current MediaMonkey.exe (from 1827) by this one:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/smrcfx8mmexpm ... y.exe?dl=0
-- it has enhanced debug messaging to better pinpoint the particular file that could cause the AV in f_aac_codec.dll

Thanks for your time!

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:47 pm

currently the sync is progressing fine on a single core without the codec

Obviously it is taking a very long time!

Once it has completed I will do as you say

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:08 am

Hi, thanks for the log.

Without the codec extension (f_aac_codec.dll removed) there is no Access Violation so I guess the whole sync proceeded just fine, right?
Can you confirm?

In order to find which file causes the AV in f_aac_codec.dll previously we would need you to test with the codec extension again (f_aac_codec.dll) and the listed files in order to find a sample file that causes it. And ideally if you could share the sample file then with us. I will also ask colleague to compile and post build 1828 (with the sync stuck fix) and enhanced debug messaging.

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:12 am

I'm also now attempting a full sync with 1 of the 16 cores enabled for conversion and auto-conversion

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:55 am

Ludek wrote:Could you please do small additional tests:

1) Run DbgView
2) Run MM
3) right click the file
D:\Media\Music\Mik Artistik's Ego Trip\ALIVE!\17 Retired Corr.m4a
and select sent to > Mike's iPod
4) attach the log

Also I see that timestamp of your C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Roaming\MediaMonkey\Plugins\f_aac_codec.dll
is 2017-01-19 09:32:40
So it looks that you installed codec pack recently? Could you post your f_aac_codec.dll to ensure that it is the same version of the plugin?

BTW: Temporal removing of f_aac_codec.dll could be a workaround as
C:\Program Files (x86)\MediaMonkey\Plugins\f_alac_encdec.dll
can also decode ALAC.

1827 installed
codec extension removed
steps above followed for all the tracks you have listed above
ipod ejected

Log here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7p5oqxlaqxf74 ... 2.LOG?dl=0

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 pm

FYI: We revised the plugin and it seems to be is thread safe so it looks that the AV is caused by a particular file, but because the conversion can run on 8 threads simultaneously (based on Options > Performance) then it can be a little bit tricky to pinpoint the particular file, in the debug log I see that a first AV occured while one of this files were converted:

D:\Media\Music\Maya Jane Coles\Comfort\10 When I'm In Love (feat. Thomas Kn.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Compilations\Ayia Napa_ The Album [Disc 2]\2-21 Liferide [Dub Mix].m4a
D:\Media\Music\Compilations\The Best of Dance 96 [Disc 1]\1-13 Do You Know Where You're Coming.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Mik Artistik's Ego Trip\ALIVE!\17 Retired Corr.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Compilations\fRoots 29\05 Lua.m4a
D:\Media\Music\Maya Jane Coles\Comfort\09 Wait For You (feat. Tricky).m4a

i.e. in the step 3 try to use all these files, thank you!

Also, I see that you first sentense of this topic was:
So I've purchased media monkey as an alternative to itunes to sync my ipod classic 160Gb after the dreaded 'failed to convert' errors.
which would confirm my theory that it is caused by file conversion of a particular file(s)

EDIT: Partially fixed in 1828 (the sync won't stuck when there is an AV in the plugin) and proceeds with further plugins (and further files). But the reason for the AV in f_aac_codec.dll plugin is still unclear (needed your tests).

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:36 pm

Could you please do small additional tests:

1) Run DbgView
2) Run MM
3) right click the file
D:\Media\Music\Mik Artistik's Ego Trip\ALIVE!\17 Retired Corr.m4a
and select sent to > Mike's iPod
4) attach the log

Also I see that timestamp of your C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Roaming\MediaMonkey\Plugins\f_aac_codec.dll
is 2017-01-19 09:32:40
So it looks that you installed codec pack recently? Could you post your f_aac_codec.dll to ensure that it is the same version of the plugin?

BTW: Temporal removing of f_aac_codec.dll could be a workaround as
C:\Program Files (x86)\MediaMonkey\Plugins\f_alac_encdec.dll
can also decode ALAC.

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:34 pm

Thanks for the log!

It seems there is AV in f_aac_codec.dll when decoding multiple ALAC files at once (when auto-converting on multiple threads)

I entered the issue as
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=13968
and we are looking into it.

The terminated sync is consequence of this issue.
This will be fixed in 1828 (the sync won't stuck when there is an AV in the plugin) and proceeds with further plugins (and further files).

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by mrmichaelwright » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:10 am

debug file here

https://www.dropbox.com/s/73bx71wwe1e0w ... 4.LOG?dl=0

I've connected the ipod to a different USB socket on the back of the machine rather than the ones on the front of the case. clicked through several access violation errors early on then it ran well for 1400 track until it threw up an error and stopped. I then attempted to eject the ipod, this is the point at which I saved the debug report

Re: Problems with Ipod after sync

by Ludek » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:27 am

But so far it looks that MM still has a trouble to get full write access (to the iTunesDB file) for some reason, because your posted iTunesDB has 39 MB, but the metadata for 8360 tracks resides only on the first 10 MB and the file should have only 10 MB, it looks like MM isn't allowed to do that.

EDIT: I wonder whether it could be an USB issue? Do you use USB HUB or something like that? Could you try another USB port and ensure that iTunesDB file is fully writeable before the sync?

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