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by MrSinatra
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Need Help? (mmw)
Topic: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?
Replies: 10
Views: 6150

Re: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?

Forgive me for reviving this old thread, but I seek clarification on MM's behavior / handling of m4a tags. My impression is that if u read m4a's into MM it will read both normal atoms and the windows custom atom with the WM style tag / data blob. If both are present, it will prefer the normal atoms ...
by MrSinatra
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

No, because it actually depends on the range to work. I've glanced back it seems you're just trying to make it seem pretty (in order (I know the feeling)). How would changing the reading values change things? Other than breaking the Addon I don't see any value to this. Are you having Ratings from o...
by MrSinatra
Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

That would break some scripts as mentioned previously, they depend on the range value for each star value. scripts can be rewritten. i think sensible handling and universal compatibility is more important than niche legacy support. i can't ask winamp for example, to copy the current implementation ...
by MrSinatra
Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:56 am
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

hi guys, thx very much for both your responses. i am taking them to mean that MM still writes those exact raw numbers for those values/stars. can you please point me to any other apps that actually write and or display bombs/half stars based on in tag values? i am trying to establish if there is any...
by MrSinatra
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

hi Jiri, thanks for posting the code. i kind of understand it, but i'd be one terrible dev, ha. the part tho that i def didn't twig before, but i get now, is that MM maps all values from id3/POPM or any given format / spec into a single ultimate 0-100 scale in a separate MM db. thats very good to kn...
by MrSinatra
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

  Don't worry, this isn't about the values that are being written; they work as they should. However, the representation of non-standard values (values that aren't 0 , 13, 1 , 54, 64 , 118, 128 , 186, 196 , 242, 255 ) is seriously messed up. I noticed this accidentally, and then did a test to see w...
by MrSinatra
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Star ratings - what values written to POPM

i'd also like to know what MM is currently doing. i posted a few years back and got MM to agree to make some changes, so that all apps would compatible with each other, so like this: The following list details how Windows Explorer reads and writes the POPM frame: 224-255 = 5 stars when READ with Win...
by MrSinatra
Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:41 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

hi all, just revisited this thread, fun read (for me). i have def noticed vast improvements "in the wild" in just about all app's cross compatibility. i don't often come across cases anymore where one app doesn't correctly handle the rating created by another app. i am curious though, can someone co...
by MrSinatra
Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:25 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

It doesn't make sense at all, half star is an actual value just like a full star. 1 1/2 star means 1.5 stars obviously. but that doesn't speak to the raw numbers. tell me, how is one supposed to know the "range," in raw numbers, one should have? how do you determine the cutoffs? it makes no sense t...
by MrSinatra
Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:59 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

Locic behind MMW 252 Rating -> 5 stars can be easily solved using plain Mathematical Decimal point rounding where 0.57 is rounded to 0.6. what is the W in MMW? and this isn't a math problem. there is no math component. this is strictly about table matching/mapping raw numbers to display UI, and I s...
by MrSinatra
Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:45 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

That would break rounding (and thus some Addons) as everything is rounded to half stars instead of as it should to the nearest star (as mipi suggests). as it should? why should it? the Add-ons can change. the point I am trying to make is that there should be only ONE value for full/whole stars, whi...
by MrSinatra
Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:01 pm
Forum: Bug Reports (mmw)
Topic: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating
Replies: 65
Views: 44825

Re: Value of ID3v2 POPM field and MM's Rating

Mipi, I disagree. only 255 should be 5 stars. ANYTHING below 255 should NOT be 5 stars. just FYI I requested the devs here and at winamp change their apps to be more in line with windows explorer, we used that as the benchmark, and I am grateful they did so. but the MM problem is that explorer and a...
by MrSinatra
Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:15 am
Forum: Need Help? (mmw)
Topic: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?
Replies: 10
Views: 6150

Re: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?

was the other forum winamps? I've been discussing this there too.

sounds like you got it figured out, but is the data in the atom always going to be in there the same way? like is it crude matching or predictable parsing irrespective of what fields are present?
by MrSinatra
Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:50 am
Forum: Need Help? (mmw)
Topic: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?
Replies: 10
Views: 6150

Re: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?

cool. how did you figure out the list of tags at the bug? is the atom known as: moov.udta.Xtra ? is it a data blob inside that atom or how is it storing the info? as a WMA tag? will you just read these values? or will MM edit them as well? I think MM should only write ratings to %rate% (and prefer i...
by MrSinatra
Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:24 pm
Forum: Need Help? (mmw)
Topic: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?
Replies: 10
Views: 6150

Re: m4a ratings and atoms questions, possible problem?

no, it def is tagged, b/c the rating follows the file from one computer to the next.

I think what may be happening is that win exp uses a custom atom and then sticks a WMA style tag in it as a data blob.