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Postby Spazz » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:33 pm

I had never really thoght about it until itunes started with it, but a skip counter would be really nice. You could use it for autoplaylists and script makers could access it. Being able to sync it from the ipod would be even better.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby Rodriguez » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:01 am

Yes! I'm really missing this feature now that I've completely crossed over to MM. It was essential to many of the autoplaylists I was running in itunes.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby mtnkodiak » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:16 pm

Yes... I really expected more people to chime in about this missing autoplaylist feature. I guess other users aren't into creating more involved playlists?

One of my favorite iTunes smart playlists was an ever-evolving "personal radio station", and the logic relied heavily on "skip count" and "last skipped". (Essentially I could vote off a track from my "personal radio" by skipping it when it came up on my iPod. Pretty nifty!)
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Re: Skip counter

Postby MixaLot » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:28 pm

Yes! I would whole heartedly agree!

It is possible to include Skip Count with the AutoRateAccurate script. It does a nice job of tracking skip count with much more granularity than iPods or iTunes (can configure what counts as a "skip", vs. iPod is hard-coded as 2-20 seconds). However, I have yet to see any way to sync this from an iPod, so that by skipping songs on my iPod I am pushing them down the playlist.

I use MM primarily as a manager for my iPod, and to sync songs to it. There must be more of us out there who aren't interested in playing music off the computer, right?
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Re: Skip counter

Postby Spastika » Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:53 am

I have seen posts about implementing the skip count a while ago and thought it was evident that it is a useful enough feature to have been working on for a coming release.

I use an iPod Shuffle 3G and the only way of "tagging" or manipulating songs in the DB is by either playing them in full or skipping them before 20 s have played. Most of my automatic playlists uses skip count, last skipped timestamp, play count and last played timestamp. Because this is such an important part of my music management and listening experience with the little Shuffle I have not gotten to the point in my frustration with iTunes to migrate to MediaMonkey yet - one little (very important to me) feature.

So, I just wanted to add my voice to the others in saying if this feature is implemented in MM it would not be in vein.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby gnasty » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:08 pm

Add me to the list. I would love to see this feature added to mediamonkey.

I can see why this would be all that difficult to implement with the possible compatibility issues with portable players, and the way they store this information.
****Not to mention that apple is constantly adding barriers against 3rd party applications.

Perhaps, we could make Autorate Accurate read skip counts from a custom field, or something. Does anyone understand how ipods/iphones store this information (and want to explain it to me?) :wink: Atleast, point me in the right direction of where i can find information on this.

Hopefully, we can figure a way to get this working. Anyone willing to give it a go, please let me know if there is anyway i can help! I have serveral generations of ipod, including an iphone 3g and ipod touch 1g. I am willing to provide any files needed from these devices.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby TankCR » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:16 pm

I am 100% on board with this, in fact I have posted the autorate accurate script to multiple forums to see if anyone can help us add this option. I am thinking it is as simple as pulling out the piece of code that gets the skip count then add some code that ports it to another custom field, wish I was a little better at vbs.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby aduartes » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:21 am

Plllleeeaseee Skip Count!
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Re: Skip counter

Postby Ludek » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:18 am

I am going to implement it today or tomorrow:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6246
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Re: Skip counter

Postby nynaevelan » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:20 am

YAY!!!!
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Re: Skip counter

Postby mtnkodiak » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:46 pm

Ludek wrote:I am going to implement it today or tomorrow:
http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6246


Woot!

1. Add new columns/fields '#Skipped', 'Last Skipped'
2. Add these fields to advanced queries and auto-playlists
3. Add the fields as new scripting properties to ISDBSongData COM interface.


I think that's pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. :)

[ETA: It looks like it was added to MM 4.0. I'd be happy to test this feature out for ya-- any need for a beta tester? hehehe]
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Re: Skip counter

Postby trixmoto » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:41 am

I notice that SkipCount has appeared as a property (for MM4) but will there be an "OnTrackSkipped" or similar event added as well?
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Re: Skip counter

Postby Mizery_Made » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:48 am

mtnkodiak wrote:[ETA: It looks like it was added to MM 4.0. I'd be happy to test this feature out for ya-- any need for a beta tester? hehehe]

The Alpha/Beta/RC testing is open to all. However, development on 4.0 is still in it's early stages, and thus won't reach Alpha stage for some time, I wager. When it does, builds will be posted in the MediaMonkey Beta Testing forum, where you would then be free to download the test builds and do all the testing you want.
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Re: Skip counter

Postby TankCR » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:55 pm

I am having a hard time following the directions to implement this script, any help?
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Re: Skip counter

Postby nohitter151 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:02 pm

kristopher.roy wrote:I am having a hard time following the directions to implement this script, any help?

This is not a script. This new feature will be available in the next release of MediaMonkey.
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