[1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autosync

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theta_wave
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[1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autosync

Post by theta_wave »

I have autoplaylists that sync music with certain criteria to my iPod touch 4 (iOS 5.1, 60gig). I tried to sync ~8,000 of songs, audiobooks and podcasts to my now-clean iPod touch. About 3/4 of them are FLACs. When I am about to sync, the summary tab lists that I was going to sync 49.2gigs of tunes (size after transcode), as indicated by the picture below. My transcode settings are listed below in the pic.

The syncing process died at around the 667th song with an error message that there was sufficient space for the operation. I first checked my HDD thinking it ran out of space, but it didn't. I checked my iPod and I see that it had only 800mb left and nothing listed under Music or Audiobooks.

Problem: It appears that Mediamonkey copies all of the FLACs to the device first and then transcodes. No wonder why the copying process went so slowly! I don't know if any files managed to be transcoded because the process died during the copying phase. (edit: apparently, the FLACs are copied to the device and renamed to mp3, see below)

Afterwards, nothing is listed under Music, Videos, or Audiobooks. The summary tab says that there is 53.5gb of free space (as does iTunes 10.6), but the capacity bar (see in the pic below) says otherwise unless the capacity bar simply means calculated capacity after a successful sync

On MM3, I did this mass sync last year and it seemed that it individually transcoded FLACs to mp3s on my HDD first and then copied the transcoded audio file over to my iPod touch running the compatible version of iOS then. I imagine the process to go like this (in tmp folder): FLAC #1 -> mp3 #1 -> Copy mp3 #1 to device -> delete FLAC #1 and mp3 #1 from tmp directory; FLAC #2 -> mp3 #2 -> Copy mp3 #2 to device -> delete FLAC #2 and mp3 #2 from tmp directory; etc.

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Interestingly, I dragged and dropped two FLACs to my iPod touch folder in Mediamonkey and I found that the FLACs were renamed to mp3 and not transcoded (see bitrates) even though I had the rules set in place and the status bar indicated that it was transcoding the FLACs and then copying resulting mp3s to my iPod touch.

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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by Ludek »

Hi, this was with build 1482 or 1483?

Could you please try with 1483 debug and catch debug log so that we could see what is happening.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by Lowlander »

I believe this is a different bug. The problem is that MediaMonkey shows the Library values of files that have been converted to a Portable Device. I also did a sync with conversion and files showed wrong size and bitrate. Open the same iPod Touch on different MM on different PC and correct values are shown. I believe this bug is already in Mantis, but can't yet locate it.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by fcondez »

Iwas driving myself nuts with the same issue. I was transcode my higher bitrate mp3's to lower bitrate ones to save space on my iphone worked perfect in 1482 but no dice in 1483. Seems like a regression of sorts.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

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Lowlander wrote:I believe this is a different bug. The problem is that MediaMonkey shows the Library values of files that have been converted to a Portable Device. I also did a sync with conversion and files showed wrong size and bitrate. Open the same iPod Touch on different MM on different PC and correct values are shown. I believe this bug is already in Mantis, but can't yet locate it.
Does it explain why autosync stops dead with an error regarding the lack of space left on the device, syncing just 7% of the list of files that were transcoded just fine when I ran iOS 4.x on my ipod?

FWIW, I see the track in iTunes and it reports the track as an mp3 with the apparent encoding settings I used (lame V2). However, the track has an exclamation mark and it cannot be played or have its tags edited. Also, closing and reopening Mediamonkey 4, I see the track as an 200kbps mp3. However, like in iTunes, the track cannot be played from the iPod node nor can I edit its tags. Something is wrong here.
Last edited by theta_wave on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

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Ludek wrote:Hi, this was with build 1482 or 1483?

Could you please try with 1483 debug and catch debug log so that we could see what is happening.
The version of Mediamonkey I'm using is 1483 (see title).

Here's the debug log from a simple drag and drop of a FLAC file into my ipod on the mediatree: http://pastebin.com/HpWnV0m2

Results:
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Restarting mediamonkey, I see a 200kbps mp3. However, this mp3 is unplayable in mediamonkey and itunes. It doesn't show up in my ipod music library.

Oh yea, I'm have QuickTime 7.6.9 installed, if that helps.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by Lowlander »

That would seem to be the same as I'm experiencing: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9286
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by theta_wave »

Lowlander wrote:That would seem to be the same as I'm experiencing: http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9286
Actually, I believe you are right after doing some additional testing. Thanks for pointing out the bug report.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by outlandis »

Just downloaded 1484 and the auto convert to my iPhone 4s is definitely broken. even though I have it set to reduce the higher rate mp3's it simply copies them and does not trans-code.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by patch »

outlandis wrote: auto convert to my iPhone 4s is definitely broken.
Have you tried deleting the iphone configuration as described here http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... =6&t=65781
Tools -> Options -> Portable/Audio devices -> select and delete the device you are trying to synch to then restart MM and reconnect the device.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by Lowlander »

outlandis wrote:Just downloaded 1484 and the auto convert to my iPhone 4s is definitely broken. even though I have it set to reduce the higher rate mp3's it simply copies them and does not trans-code.
And did you verify in a place other than MediaMonkey that synced the files? The bug here is that on auto-convert MediaMonkey will show values of original files instead of the converted files.
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by outlandis »

Lowlander wrote:A The bug here is that on auto-convert MediaMonkey will show values of original files instead of the converted files.
My apologies... You Sir are 100% correct, the problem is not in transcoding the files but rather in MM displaying the correct bitrate information for the transcoded files.

I checked them in iTunes and they are all the correct bitrate on the device.

You guys do a great job, Thanks
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Re: [1483] iOS 5, transcode-on-the-fly doesn't work w/ autos

Post by rusty »

So it seems that in 1484 an least, there's no auto-conversion problem. There still is:
a) a playback problem of files on the device from within MediaMonkey as described at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9301 . Workaround is to refresh the view (F5) in MediaMonkey, but it'll be fixed in 1485.
b) sync problem for some files as described at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=9286 .

-Rusty
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