1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
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1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
1 See Help:
Search Term . . Search Results
Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A
2 In search bar enter Artist:Charlo
Expected: only tracks with Artist = Charlo [<<EDIT correction]
Observed: tracks with Artist = Charlo and tracks with Artist = Francisco Canaro canta Charlo
Workaround: use Advanced Search. Note: search bar Artist:"Charlo" and "Artist:Charlo" fail.
If anyone knows a workaround that works for the search bar, please do say.
Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6205
Search Term . . Search Results
Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A
2 In search bar enter Artist:Charlo
Expected: only tracks with Artist = Charlo [<<EDIT correction]
Observed: tracks with Artist = Charlo and tracks with Artist = Francisco Canaro canta Charlo
Workaround: use Advanced Search. Note: search bar Artist:"Charlo" and "Artist:Charlo" fail.
If anyone knows a workaround that works for the search bar, please do say.
Tracked at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6205
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Why is that expected??chrisjj wrote: 2 In search bar enter Artist:Charlo
Expected: only tracks with Artist = Canaro
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
> Why is that expected??
See Help:
Search Term . . Search Results
Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A
See Help:
Search Term . . Search Results
Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
I can see in the example, because A = A
But Charlo != Canaro
But Charlo != Canaro
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Oops! Sorry, typo, now corrected.
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Thank you for the error detection!
Do you find the same failure?
Do you find the same failure?
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Interestingly enough, I've found that:
Artist:Whale finds 'Noah and the Whale' and more interestingly, 'Freelance Whales'
Artist:"Whale" finds only 'Noah and the Whale'
Artist:Whale finds 'Noah and the Whale' and more interestingly, 'Freelance Whales'
Artist:"Whale" finds only 'Noah and the Whale'
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
> Artist:Whale finds 'Noah and the Whale' and more interestingly, 'Freelance Whales'
Thanks for the confirmation.
> Artist:"Whale" finds only 'Noah and the Whale'
Sounds like an undocumented feature.
Thanks for the confirmation.
> Artist:"Whale" finds only 'Noah and the Whale'
Sounds like an undocumented feature.
Chris
Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Issue seems that Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A is inconsistent with other entries and should probably read finds tracks with A*, a* etc..... That would better explain how it works.
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
> Issue seems that Artist:A . . . . . Tracks with Artist = A is inconsistent with other entries
Please feel free to report that separately because it is not the issue I am reporting here. This issue I reported is that is inconsistent with program behaviour.
Please feel free to report that separately because it is not the issue I am reporting here. This issue I reported is that is inconsistent with program behaviour.
Chris
Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
I disagree, you understanding of the feature is wrong in my opinion, poor wording would be the cause and updating this would solve the issue.
As Nohitter151 showed your search should be:
Artist:"Charlo"
What you suggest would remove the functionality to search for similar results, whereas what you need is already implemented.
As Nohitter151 showed your search should be:
Artist:"Charlo"
What you suggest would remove the functionality to search for similar results, whereas what you need is already implemented.
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Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
Testing shows that what Nohitter151 reported fails for me as well. Artist:"Ziggy" finds both Ziggy and Ziggy Marley.
I do think that for consistency that:
Artist:Charlo should find all artist that include charlo in the field
Artist:"Charlo" should find the artist Charlo
I do think that for consistency that:
Artist:Charlo should find all artist that include charlo in the field
Artist:"Charlo" should find the artist Charlo
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Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
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Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
> I disagree, you understanding of the feature is wrong in my opinion
You really do have a problem accepting objective bug reports, don't you? I have expressed no "understanding" of the issue. I have reported a failure of program behaviour to accord with the declaration. Your wish for a change to what you perceive as "poor wording" should be filed (if at all) as a wish.
You really do have a problem accepting objective bug reports, don't you? I have expressed no "understanding" of the issue. I have reported a failure of program behaviour to accord with the declaration. Your wish for a change to what you perceive as "poor wording" should be filed (if at all) as a wish.
Chris
Re: 1294 Search <property>: exact match false positives [#6205]
So how do you propose a user searches for artists matching Charlo if what you suggest is implemented. It would no longer be possible. Instead if Artist:"Value" is added for exact matches, you can get your results without breaking the functionality to get matching results.
If I fail to understand your suggestion please elaborate on it as I understand that your suggestion would limit other users whereas mine accommodates both.
PS. the suggestion to change the wording is suggested to better reflect the current behavior, which in my opinion is correct.
If I fail to understand your suggestion please elaborate on it as I understand that your suggestion would limit other users whereas mine accommodates both.
PS. the suggestion to change the wording is suggested to better reflect the current behavior, which in my opinion is correct.
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