AutoRateAccurate 2.4.3 (22/10/2009) - for MM3

kalowski · Post by **kalowski** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:35 am

Yep. Similar problem. When activated the Auto Rate seems to affect playback. It freezes on every previously unplayedtrack. I've just had to restart MM 5 time to play 5 tracks!
I've just disabled Auto Rate and they now play fine.

Big_Berny · Post by **Big_Berny** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:03 am

Hi guys,
just to let you know: I couldn't work on the script these days but I'll try to fix the bugs the next days. Unfortunately I can't reproduce any of the problems so it's difficult to get them... But I'll do my best!

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:09 am

Berny, just to let you know: I almost always use Album Art with Details view and that may contribute to the problem. According to Petr, all the bugs I've reported since I installed 1147 yesterday may be related to Album Art views.

Big_Berny · Post by **Big_Berny** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:11 am

Yeah, saw that too. But I think that people also had some problems with the older MM-beta.

Who had problems with MM 3.0.3 Beta 1?

PhilDG · Post by **PhilDG** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:05 pm

I had plenty of problems with build 1147 but rolling back to the previous solved them. Seems that build had plenty of bugs.
I nearly always use the album art view and have only really had problems with 1147.

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:12 pm

PhilDG wrote:I had plenty of problems with build 1147 but rolling back to the previous solved them. Seems that build had plenty of bugs.
I nearly always use the album art view and have only really had problems with 1147.

Same here although I haven't rolled back (yet) because 1147 fixes the invalid track ID bug. I will likely roll back though and remove the trigger scripts if they can't get all these 1147 errors handled soon. 1140 gave me no issues beyond that.

LordHades · Post by **LordHades** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:35 pm

I'm using 1140 on the moment, and it gives me problems with the beta script,I have installed 2.1 on the moment and that works fine.

Johonn · Post by **Johonn** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:17 pm

Well first off i just started using ARA and so far so good. There are just some tweaks i would like to suggest.

While the percentage for each star rating is nice it seems to be off balance without another calculation taking place. What i mean is: i rarely reboot and i am lucky to even restart MM. This causes the AutoCalc to run less then it should. Which causes either high or low ratings. High was if a new song played for the first time and played all the way through the song and low if i skipped it. Since i just started using ARA my auto ratings were either 1 or 5 stars, nothing else. I restarted MM and now i get 4.5 stars or 2.5 stars.

I know this is because it has reran the AutoCalc and balancing my auto ratings for the percentage of each star i set. That got me thinking of how it could be tweaked a little more. The only option i can think of (right now) is how long the song is played for in percentages before being skipped.

ex. The current calc is "(Played-Skip^1.7)". What if we could change it to say (Played-Skip^Percent-Played). Where percent played was able to be user-configed in 5 levels. Configured in the way of percentage of the song played

ex.
Song played (%)
0-10% = 1.7
11-30% = 1.5
31-50% = 1.3
50-75% = 1
76-100% = .75

What i am saying is if i skipped a song right away then it should get a rating lower then if i skipped a song at say 60% done.

Thoughts?????

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:48 am

Can't you just calibrate/autorate manually? Hit the star button everyday when you wake up.

Johonn · Post by **Johonn** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:29 pm

yes, i could hit the star to autorate but it does takes some time to go through my entire collection since i am counting skipped songs. I am lazy i don't want to have to do that everyday. I am guessing since i have not had to much time to dig through the code that it will only take longer and longer as i play more and more songs and skip more and more songs.

Big_Berny · Post by **Big_Berny** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:16 pm

Hi Johonn,
what you experience here only happens atr the very beginning with a fresh database! After some days/weeks the script gets stabler and you don't have to run the AutoCalibration as often anymore and you won't notice such rating jumps anymore. And as spacefish said you also just can click on the star to AutoCalibrate and re-calculate all ratings again. I recommend to do that anyway from time to time because it also optimizes the ratings of older songs. And it won't get much slower by the way - also when you skip/play more and more songs!

But I already have a feature on my todo-list which would be useful in your case (specially with fresh database). Don't know when I can implement that though as my time is limited and I first want to improve the stability of the script by fixing all bugs the others experienced.

Regards
Big_Berny

theshawn · Post by **theshawn** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:33 pm

I read in another thread how ARA was good with portable players and ratings, but I can't seem to find the details of how or what. So, I'll just say what I want and see if there are ideas... When listening to songs on the iPod, when I run across one I don't care to hear again, I mark it with 1-star. Is there any way that ARA would pull those ratings back into MM?

drjboulder · Post by **drjboulder** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:50 am

theshawn wrote:I read in another thread how ARA was good with portable players and ratings, but I can't seem to find the details of how or what. So, I'll just say what I want and see if there are ideas... When listening to songs on the iPod, when I run across one I don't care to hear again, I mark it with 1-star. Is there any way that ARA would pull those ratings back into MM?

The rating should change in the monkeys Database (and tag) during auto-synch. ARA would then see it as manually rated and ignore it in its formula if that option is checked in the options dialog.

LordHades · Post by **LordHades** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:22 am

OK,

well i'm pretty sure it's the 2.2 version of the ara script that causes my problem the 2.1 version works fine

I am using the 1140 build still but i can upgrade tonight and try it again. Btw is it possible you upload the beta 4 of the script so i can check if it has the same problem as the beta 4.

Big_Berny · Post by **Big_Berny** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:20 pm

Hi theshawn,
the sript is good to use with portable players like ipod because it uses the playcounter in stead of the played-table. This has the advantage that also the plays from the ipod are used to calculate the ratings. The played-table which is used in another autorating-script has the advantage that you have more details about the different plays. So for example you can look how much a song has been played the last X days.

About your other question: MediaMonkey should automatically sync the the ratings from your ipod back to the pc. And in my script you can set in the options that only songs without a manual rating (also when rated on a ipod) will get an AutoRating.

Hope that helps.

@all: By the way I hope that I can release the next beta soon which will store a log-file which should help to get all your problems.

Big_Berny

AutoRateAccurate 2.4.3 (22/10/2009) - for MM3

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