iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by cyberhap »

i synced once my music wiht the new dll but now i cannot see the phones name it just displays "iphone" and no tracks are displayed what can i do?

I'm having the same issue.

Fire up MediaMonkey, plug in the Touch and it is recognized, but instead of showing up as what I named it, it just says "iPod Touch." Free space is reported correctly, but no music files are visible on the device.

I had the exact same issue and fixed the problem. I went into iTunes and manually deleted all of my music from my iPod Touch. I then went into MM (1266) and it recognized my Touch with 3.0 installed and I could sync all of my music back to it. It is now working perfectly.
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by cmx »

Impulse, to remove files from iphone without restore you can try this:

http://code.google.com/p/iphonebrowser/

Not sure if your original issue will affect iphonebrowser or not. Also, you will have to deal with the bizarre iphone name and structure BS.
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by Impulse »

cyberhap wrote:I had the exact same issue and fixed the problem. I went into iTunes and manually deleted all of my music from my iPod Touch. I then went into MM (1266) and it recognized my Touch with 3.0 installed and I could sync all of my music back to it. It is now working perfectly.
Yeah, that's what I should've done and it all would have worked out perfectly... Dunno why I didn't, kinda common sense (and I think I did it after the last OS update even)... Made a big stinking mess now since a couple videos/podcasts are lumped into that 'Other' category as well. Jiri or Rusty, do your users a favor and put up a disclaimer for the best way to go about sync'ing post-3.1.1 update and post MM-beta update... Delete all files in iTunes first, then just use MM as usual, it'll save some less-than-clever people like me a few headaches. :oops:
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

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I've taken screenshots of all my iPod settings and such and resorted to doing a restore to see if I can straighten this out... Can't believe iTunes has to re-download the OS from Apple in order to restore it, ugh... With all the bloat and extra crap the app installs, it couldn't keep a copy of that?
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by cmx »

impulse also note that itunes will only allow you to install 3.1.

If users want to retain capability to jailbreak at this time DO NOT update to iphone OS 3.1.

Thanks for talking about this issue impulse. Hopefully you will help other avoid some problems.

I had to restore one of my phones becuase of corrupted OS files...totally pissed Apple did not give me the choice to stay with 3.0.
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by Impulse »

Yeah I noticed that when it started downloading 3.1 right away... Is the process the same whether you initiate it from iTunes or the iPod itself? On the iPod it said it'd take up to two hours so I just went via iTunes (DL is almost finished), I guess on the iPod it'd have to unpack files or something hence why it'd be slower? What happens if I restore a backup after doing this base restore btw? Would it restore my settings and not my media? Or would it restore what I had before I ever sync'd w/MM (so I can then delete it via iTunes and proceed w/MM)?

I'm gonna try it, if anything I just mess it up again and have to re-initiate the first restore, but if it works then I save the trouble of re-entering all my settings...
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

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Alright, looks like it has worked... It's still re-installing apps but judging from the free space reported I'm home free. Here's a brief summary of the events for anyone that couldn't make heads or tails of my previous posts:

1 ) I had previously installed iTunes 9 and upgraded my 2nd gen 16GB iPod touch to OS 3.1.1 while using my netbook. All 10GB of music that I had previously sync'd to it with MM were still on it and working fine (along with two podcasts and one video).

2 ) I installed the latest MM beta on my desktop, 3.1.2.1267 (Beta 2), which I think actually includes the d_iPhone.dll that Jiri has posted on that other thread.

3 ) Opened up MediaMonkey and my iPod touch showed up simply as 'iPod touch' instead of 'Frank's iPod', I couldn't see any of the contents of the iPod in MM even tho it reported free space accurately.

4 ) Figured maybe I needed iTunes 9 installed or something so I went ahead and installed it on my desktop as well, still nothing in MM. Do note that I could still see all my songs just fine within iTunes. At this point I made a backup just in case, might've done it earlier actually, I forget.

5 ) Figured maybe I needed a clean install of MM so I uninstalled it via Add/Remove and re-installed it. Also added Jiri's plugin manually to be on the safe side, still nothing... And I forgot to backup my my MM dir so I lost my MM settings, grrr.

6 ) Now here's where I made a big mistake... Rather than simply wiping all songs within iTunes first, I tried doing a manual sync via MM... It actually worked and it sync'd a couple dozen songs without issue, BUT, all 10GB of music that were already on the device were suddenly lost. Not visible in MM nor iTunes but still taking up space on the device, ugh.

7 ) I restore my backup using iTunes, didn't solve anything. Tried and considered a couple other things but nada.

8 ) I resorted to doing a full restore within iTunes (clicking Restore rather than Restore from Backup)... When prompted to do a backup first I told it NOT to do so (I had no need for a backup of a messed up iPod after all).

9 ) As you can imagine the restore wiped everything, restored all settings to default, etc... It did restore me to OS 3.1.1 tho (not 2.x), and it did have to re-download OS 3.1.1 from Apple in order to do so... Honestly, I really hate iTunes.

10) AFTER doing the base restore I restored my earlier backup (by clicking Restore from Backup), this has apparently restored all my settings and re-installed all my apps w/o me needing to do any of it manually. I'm now back to 567MB of Apps, 262MB of 'Other' (I assume that's normal? I forget what it was at beforehand), 305MB of Photos, and 13.41GB free, yay. The 'lost' video, music, and podcasts are gone.

It seems to have restored ALL my settings at the time of the backup just fine, WiFi networks, BT pairings, e-mail, everything, 'least iTunes got that right. A couple of screenshots that I took (of the settings themselves and how I had apps organized) in between the backup and the restore process vanished, of course (I had copied them to the computer obviously)...

So I guess it worked, dunno why restoring the backup by itself didn't wipe the music that was lost to the void under 'Other' but whatever. Now I gotta re-set all my sync preferences in MM and I'm back in business. Edit: I should add that most of my MM settings were restored after I actually went ahead and re-activated my Gold access (I thought I'd lost them when I un-installed and re-installed).
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by bilevans01 »

Hi, i've got the very same crash as everyone seems to have but i've got something new : on my other computer where Apple software are not installed, the very same happens again : MM opens normally but when i click on a song, it crashes saying that mm media library has encountered a problem. Last thing i must mention both attempt where from external drive plugged in (but i've tried on several different files and music folders)
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by Lowlander »

@bilevans01
You did upgrade to the latest beta: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 34522&sd=d as suggested in this thread to fix the issue?
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by skol »

Hi

I have been lurking and following the development here as a long time MM and iPhone user also suffering from the problems described since updating to the latest versions of itunes and iPhone OS. My experience so far:

I installed the latest beta of MM (3.1.2.1267) and while this did initially successfully sync across my files (and recognise my iPhone), once I have subsequently synced with iTunes (not music which is manually managed) then I am back to having problems. The music already synced is still fine for playing via the iPhone and shows as "audio" data in itunes (rather than "other" as previously), but MM is back to showing a generic iPhone device attached and does not recognise the loaded music files.
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by sakurakessho »

Is MM broken with iTunes 9.0.1 installed? Seems like it is.

I got notice of the iTunes update and went ahead and installed it, hoping that it fixes my screen blinking issue that came up, and lo and behold MM is broken again. Crashes on startup as it starts to read tracks.
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by Music Diva »

That's because 9.0.1 appears to be not an update actually, but yet another version of iTunes!! I read it's 90MB, that alone tells you it's really a new version!

I still cannot update anything, neither the iPhone nor iTunes, until MM assures full compatibility with the new stuff. I'm still on iTunes 8.1 and 2.2.1 iPhone firmware. :oops:
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

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Using the latest beta, I don't see any problem with iTunes 9.0.1, anybody else?

Jiri
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

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Jiri, all I can say is you guys do not charge enough. The latest negative response to PALM from USB-IF in support of Apple's blocking iTunes syncing with the Pre is not encouraging.

I am sure your business model never took into account the work you would have to be doing concerning Apple's offensive posture regarding syncing. I appreciate the work that has been forced upon you by Apple.

This whole thing is pretty screwed up. It is negative progress. Up until this point music itself was a commodity...the creator-the distributor-the consumer....

The distributors made the product available to ALL and it could be played and used on any device available...the more the better...

Now Apple, as a hardware manufacturer has inserted itself in the distribution system creating a second "middleman"....and actively(IMO illegally) working at locking me out of music that I purchased before Apple even existed.

It can be argued that we bought the Apple devices and we are complicit in whatever they do....we can't gripe cause we chose Apple. Well, that is not really the case. Apple has changed its software and firmware radically over the life of the iphones...essentially you update to their new software or your device is unable to function as originally purchased. THEY changed the implicit contract in the middle of the game and forced us to sign agreement or lose our original investment, which- including the phone system contracts is quite substantial...not to mention the actual "down time" and expense of new equipment and service providers. PALM's predicament is a clear example of Apple's anti-competitive behavior that ultimately leaves the consumer as the victim.

I believe in the free market system and I think Apple should be given every opportunity to safeguard their creative property...BUT there is a fine line and they have stepped over it by essentially illegally seizing my data and leveraging it for their gain. I bought and paid for the hardware and license for the operating software. I used MM which accessed the file I created and owned to manage music on the iphones. (At the time of original purchase- iTunes, admittedly from Apple, was functionally unable to handle my music collection. Apple essentially used MM at that time to insure it's product sales.) I was required to update firmware in order for my phone to operate as a phone with ATT. The update changed the file I created and locked out my music and made the device unusable as a music player unless I used Apple's software. There is no clearer example of illegal anticompetitive practice. Apple has not allowed a suit of this type to make it to court. The know they would lose.

I support MM in working to maintain my choice. I would go further and gladly support by donation or fee MM's work in maintaining my ability to chose. Make it easy and clear for me to do and I will Jiri.

For iphone and iPod Touch owners I suggest and support that no one update to iphone OS 3.1. There is apparently no real reason to as far as functionality is concerned. If the users simply do not accept this behavior by Apple maybe they will be forced to "get the message".
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Re: iTunes 9.0 Compatibility

Post by sakurakessho »

Damn.

It must be just me. But I'm not sure what to do. It works when my ipod is NOT plugged into my computer. But not when its plugged in. :-?

I was having issues before when I updated iTunes where my screen was blinking. Still am actually. And my ipod installs new drivers every time I plug it in. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried completely uninstalling everything Apple on my computer (iTunes, Quicktime, Apple Mobile Devices) and it still happens but now MM crashes when I plug my iPod touch in.
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