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Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Peke » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:24 pm

Not trying to make things possible but as you already wrote that you have made almost anything work from windows Script I'm guessing that you know basic of WSH (Windows Scripting Host) which MediaMonkey is using. It depends from each individual to each Individual but based from what I have seen in past 5 years being on this forum learning curve of MM scripting should be short enough. Even I think that there is several scripts that can do that for you (Album Art Tagger, ...). I must agree with Lowlander regarding more details, as it is not uncommon that feature already exists or can be easily made by modifying existing features (most of Script developers here including me do not mind that someone use their code if it will be put for benefits of all others or made for personal usage with just noting originator of code).

If I got you correctly I'm thinking that script could be made to gather all info from MM sitting in the background and even add track to library if needed without even open/restore mediamonkey window. Unfortunately I'm not sure for what exact purpose (and where) you need that, but my best guess that it is something similar to what Tag & Rename has done with AudioShell, but with much more options?

Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Lowlander » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:30 pm

I do not answer on behalf of MediaMonkey and I apologize that you don't want my response.

I didn't comment that it's difficult to implement the feature. My comment was about the speed of this operation. If you do as you are doing this operation without updating the database this is a fast feature. But MediaMonkey is designed to be used with a database (although you don't have to), which means that all changes made to filenames or tags would also need to be updated in the database. My suggestion is if this is the scenario that the process of starting MediaMonkey and doing these operations in MediaMonkey would be about as fast as doing them outside of MediaMonkey. Take note that this would be only if you also want changes reflected in the database. I don't think this would be hard to implement as all the functionality exists already inside MediaMonkey itself.
I actually was merely hoping that you would go into detail to why this is so important for you. This sometimes helps in giving tips about MediaMonkey that solves these kinds of wishes by pointing to existing features.

Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Corrupter » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:15 pm

i have a script for windows xp that does everything i suggested minus the auto-tag from the internet. So for you to say its hard or impossible might be unaccurate. Unless you have first hand knowledge of the programming architecture of mediamonkey and the extensions needed to manipulate the tag data it might be best you not answer on their behalf in areas your experience is limited in.

Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Lowlander » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:26 pm

No you are certainly not in the wrong place, that is just one user (me) responding to another user, but in no way reflects the opinion of MediaMonkey. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh, but I really miss the point of this as I assume that these operations will be slower than just starting up MediaMonkey. As you will need so many MediaMonkey components to accomplish these tasks it doesn't make any sense to me. This is just my opinion that I write here to discuss and possibly refine this idea with the input of the MediaMonkey users. This process is important so that the developers can see what ideas live under it's users. Any request is valid and it's up to the developers to decide what to do with it. We users just discuss these requests and as I really miss the point my response might seem harsh, my apologies.

Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by rovingcowboy » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:18 pm

no your not in the wrong place you just seem to want to use your old players way of working?
yes the things you have asked some have been wished for before, but when the newbies asking for them got use to monkey they seen it really is faster to do them all in monkey at one time. :)

and if you do add in all those features to the context menu it willl make for a fatter monkey, which then might become the ape in the computer. :(
but some of the stuff might be looked at by the developers, still as they have said before they don't want monkey to be bloatware., :wink:
plus adding in those just might cause some errors in monkey, they have been having troubles with some things on the right click menu that took some time to fix i don't think they want to get them broken just yet :D

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Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Corrupter » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:39 pm

thats a shame. To think its that easy to discount something rather then saying it could be considered. Maybe im in the wrong place afterall.

Re: context menu (right click) optons addon

by Lowlander » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:06 am

What's the point of having a software if you want to do everything outside of it. I understand that you find this useful, but due to the way MediaMonkey works (database library for track information) you would need to load so many MediaMonkey components for each action that it will be faster to do these things inside of MediaMonkey.

context menu (right click) optons addon

by Corrupter » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:55 am

Hey guys, im new to Media Monkey and its turning out to be the best software hands down for music management. I think it could use really only one thing

If when you right clicked a music file for which media monkey supported you got some of the following options:

Rename file based on tag information ( you would specify in media monkey pre-set options like rename to Artist - Album - tr#00 - title.mp3 or etc. )
Retag file based on name information ( you would specify in media monkey pre-set optoins like retag assuming file name is Artist - Album - tr#00 - title.mp3 or w/e )

Search internet for additional tag information based on existing tag or file name information (or both) etc. this would be useful if you highlighted the contents of a music folder to add the album covers to the files and or folder.

and possibly other options like convert file from one format to another, or an additional window perhaps that allows you to view pre-set prudent tag information.

Imagine doing some mundane tasks for only a couple of new music folders you've made that didnt have all the information or format that you need/want, rather then opening mediamonkey directly and going through loading the files to the library you could just right click the files directly and achieve a quick result, allowing you later to load your files into mediamonkey all set and ready to go. Any thoughts? perhaps something liek this already exists.

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