Embedded smart playlist are [b]so[/b] cool. With out it I'm forced to use itunes for that one feature. :cry:

I want to be able to listen to more of my new stuff compared to old classics (although I have many more classic tracks then new stuff) And I want to be able to be sure I'm rotating through my classic song with out listiening to the same ones over and over.

I have all my music in genres of new, almost_new, old, album, rarely_listen. I have a smart playlist set up for each genre to geneart a list of songes for a fixed amount of time. For example, the New playlist plays 4 hours and the Old playlist only contains an hours woth of songs. Then I have a master smart playlist that includes the genre specific playlist. MusicMatch kind of allowed me to do this, but it wasn't a smart playlist. Each time I opened MusicMatch I used it's AutoDJ feature (very different the MM's same named feature)

[quote="Spazz"]
Playlist is Rating3 (Rating 3 is 3 stars and limited to 100 songs)
or
Playlist is Rating5 (Rating is 4 or 5 and is limited to 200 songs)
or
Playlist is Heavy Rotation (Rating is 4 or 5, and is lmited to 50 songs sorted by last played)[/quote]

All of those things are possible separately. What I want, and I suspect you want too, is the ability to have another playlist that combines all of those. MediaJukebox would do that it and it's the only feature I miss. I had playists for rating 2-5 and then another one that wrapped them all up. I'd load it daily on my 1GB player. With MediaMonkey it's much more painful because I have to combine the four lists manually every day.

The other feature I'd like to see is the ability to have it pick a random album and then gather ALL of the tracks from that album. You can sort of do it with "sort=random album" but it often misses one or two tracks.

Been awhile since I posted this but no, it isn't quite. I can make them individually, but can't combine them all into one playlist without individually adding the to now playing. Unless I'm missing something here. You can't use a Playlist with several under it, I just tried.

[quote="Spazz"]Well, one thing specificly I miss from iTunes was being able to referance smart playlists, for example.

Playlist is Rating3 (Rating 3 is 3 stars and limited to 100 songs)
or
Playlist is Rating5 (Rating is 4 or 5 and is limited to 200 songs)
or
Playlist is Heavy Rotation (Rating is 4 or 5, and is lmited to 50 songs sorted by last played)

Being able to referance other playlists makes some damned complicated yet entertaining playlists possible. :D[/quote]

You don't need to be able to reference other playlists. You can build this in 2.5.1 (and could even have done it in 2.4.2).

A) Set rating = 3, limit = 100 songs
B) Set rating >= 4, limit = 200 songs
C) Set rating >= 4, limit = 50 songs, sort by Last Played (Z..A)

C will give you the 50 most recently played songs that are 4 stars or more.

Isn't that what you want?

You could also flip that and create a "what happened?" list, and get the 50 high-rated songs you haven't heard in the longest time. Or, sort the list by # Played and get the 50 most or least played tunes.

That should do it.
Peter

I'm not sure if this request fits this thread or should be a separate request: I'd love autoplaylists to be able to reference other playlists - be it an autoplaylist or a regular one.

That way, I could really make use of the playlists I've created manually. E.g., I have one playlist "driving" and one playlist "easy listening". Now I'd like to combine them in a new autoplaylist "chill"... Getting more sophisticated, I could mix this with songs that have "mood = relax", but only if rating >=3 stars etcetcetc. Finally, this should be interlinked with the "nested playlist" request...

I'd really be very grateful for some feedback on this suggestion, as this feature is for me the key thing I've always been looking for in my mp3 database software.

thanks a lot,
Mike

I know it is already possible to make all of those playlists using the AutoPlaylist function in the full version of MediaMonkey.

Although since I do not have an ipod I don't know if the played # is updated from the ipod.

Just as an example I made a "New Favorites" playlist that shows shows tracks added in the last month. It is limited to a 20 tracks and 80min(the length of an audio cd) and it is sorted by played #.

Its worth checking out the RadioFreeMonkey script. It isn't a playlist, but it makes a list based on several factors such as rating and playcount. Check it out in the scripts forum. :D

Yes, it is so close to replacing itunes for me. All I have left is smart playlists.

[quote="jmaver"]Is anything going to happen with this? It doesn't seem like it is in the 2.5 beta.[/quote]

Yeah, this was high on my wish list too...
The dev's have allready said that the beta is still not feature complete, so keep your fingers crossed.

I was hoping to install the beta as my first real 5.2 version, but I still don't feel comfortable with it. I really think beta 1 should have been called Alpha 6.. maybe the next release will be A6 and will have advanced playlists...

Is anything going to happen with this? It doesn't seem like it is in the 2.5 beta.

The developers have indicated that they will be doing something more advanced with the playlists in v2.5.

I too hope MM can end up doing something like you describe.

Well, one thing specificly I miss from iTunes was being able to referance smart playlists, for example.

Playlist is Rating3 (Rating 3 is 3 stars and limited to 100 songs)
or
Playlist is Rating5 (Rating is 4 or 5 and is limited to 200 songs)
or
Playlist is Heavy Rotation (Rating is 4 or 5, and is lmited to 50 songs sorted by last played)

This was my favorite playlist in itunes as it weighted my songs by rating on the ipod and included the 50 songs I'm currently obsessed with. it just isn't possible on Mediamonkey as far as I can see.

Being able to referance other playlists makes some damned complicated yet entertaining playlists possible. :D