clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

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Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by Lowlander » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:04 pm

Debug and release are the same except for added debug capability. There is a slight performance hit, but you'll need to install debug if you want to report bugs with a debug log.

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:53 pm

awesome latest release ! nice job !

window position & double click r fixed ! :D

any hope for a Linux release ? 🙏

btw, u recommend me to use the release or debug ? for me i prefer release to report issues eventually, debug may be glitchy,,, i need working app..

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:03 pm

video'z audio content is censored by twitch, cant share... THEY SUXX WITH WORLD CENSURE GRRRR... WHY FRENCH REVOLUTION IN 1789 ???!! ... bah, another story, lol...

if i can reproduce the issue i will send u audio previews from my cloud, but there zero pb atm, it works fine !

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:59 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:42 pm
MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:39 pmcompress a wav/aiff to "flac with setting 0" in mm,...
You get the same quality, just in a smaller file size due to compression as FLAC is lossless.
LowLander ! i'm sry i cant reproduce the 0-8toUNCOMPRESSED quality issue again !!!! O.o

last nights, i compressed in mm5 an aiff album to flac with 0 setting, it really sounded like 32K MP3 sh*t !!!

it's strange, but u r right !

i could not reproduce it : "low quality flac", u r true as it seems just the 0-8 scale is file size without ANY LOSS.

i will try again to find the flac issue i had last night, but it's working !

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:44 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:42 pm
MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:39 pmcompress a wav/aiff to "flac with setting 0" in mm,...
You get the same quality, just in a smaller file size due to compression as FLAC is lossless.
lemme 10 minutes,

i send u video + why not audio files,

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:42 pm

MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:39 pmcompress a wav/aiff to "flac with setting 0" in mm,...
You get the same quality, just in a smaller file size due to compression as FLAC is lossless.

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:39 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:37 pm There is no difference, just like a ZIP file doesn't loose data, compressing in FLAC doesn't loose any quality.

If you convert WAV > FLAC > WAV you end up with the same.

Compressed FLAC is no loss.
compress a wav/aiff to "flac with setting 0" in mm,...

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:37 pm

There is no difference, just like a ZIP file doesn't loose data, compressing in FLAC doesn't loose any quality.

If you convert WAV > FLAC > WAV you end up with the same.

Compressed FLAC is no loss.

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:31 pm

even they say lossless, thats my earings.

0 lowest quality / high compression

8 high quality / almost lossless,,,,

UNCOMPRESSED is no loss / just as wav and like aiff with id3 tags, just file format change. like for android phone :)

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux

by MK2 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:28 pm

Ludek wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:00 pm
MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:01 pm 4) double cliking a track to play it makes "edit text" ... (very often,,, still that double clik issue,,,)
You are right that there is really something bad with the latency.
Just tested and I can confirm that I often ends up playing the file together with transition to the inline edit state.
Watching the code the current timeout is 300 milliseconds (which should be increased to 500 ms per https://docs.microsoft.com/cs-cz/window ... dfrom=MSDN ).

I re-opened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15656 to fix this
"edit> 5) convert to flac (uncompressed) needed, 8 is not good for me, make conversion like in "dbpoweramp",,,(no compression)
FLAC is _loseless_ format, so I don't understand what do you mean by "uncompressed flac" ?
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hi Ludek,

if i convert flac to 0 ratio compression it sounds like a 20 € phone, 8 is the max quality compression for flac, in dbpoweramp there is a scale between 0 to 8 and also UNCOMPRESSED... flac can be loss if u compress between 0 - 8, but UNCOMPRESSED is really just file format convert exactly as wav & aiff.

try dbpoweramp, convert to flac "uncompressed".

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux [#15656]

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:07 pm

5) FLAC is a compressed, but lossless format (no audio data is lost, unlike with a lossy format like MP3). Uncompressed would be WAV, but that has poor tagging supported. You can change the compression level to 0 for the least amount of compression.

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux

by Ludek » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:01 pm

MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:01 pm 4) double cliking a track to play it makes "edit text" ... (very often,,, still that double clik issue,,,)
You are right that there is really something bad with the latency.
Just tested and I can confirm that I often ends up playing the file together with transition to the inline edit state.
Watching the code the current timeout is 300 milliseconds (which should be increased to 500 ms per https://docs.microsoft.com/cs-cz/window ... dfrom=MSDN ).

I re-opened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15656 to fix this

"edit> 5) convert to flac (uncompressed) needed, 8 is not good for me, make conversion like in "dbpoweramp",,,(no compression)
FLAC is _loseless_ format, so I don't understand what do you mean by "uncompressed flac" ?

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux

by Ludek » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:00 pm

MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:01 pm 4) double cliking a track to play it makes "edit text" ... (very often,,, still that double clik issue,,,)
You are right that there is really something bad with the latency.
Just tested and I can confirm that I often ends up playing the file together with transition to the inline edit state.
Watching the code the current timeout is 300 milliseconds (which should be increased to 500 ms per https://docs.microsoft.com/cs-cz/window ... dfrom=MSDN ).

I re-opened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15656 to fix this
[/quote]
"edit> 5) convert to flac (uncompressed) needed, 8 is not good for me, make conversion like in "dbpoweramp",,,(no compression)
FLAC is _loseless_ format, so I don't understand what do you mean by "uncompressed flac" ?

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux

by Ludek » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:37 pm

MK2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:01 pm 4) double cliking a track to play it makes "edit text" ... (very often,,, still that double clik issue,,,)
You are right that there is really something bad with the latency.
Just tested and I can confirm that I often ends up playing the file together with transition to the inline edit state.
Watching the code the current timeout is 300 milliseconds (which should be increased to 500 ms per https://docs.microsoft.com/cs-cz/window ... dfrom=MSDN ).

I re-opened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15656 to fix this

Re: clik/hold issues + feature request + Linux

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:24 pm

4) It does, depending on Default Action: https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHel ... k_Settings It doesn't seem to require a too quick double click, but as slow double click is also a feature you can't do it too slow, which is why right click > Play Now is a workaround if you can't double click fast enough.

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