Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files [#19928]

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Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files [#19928]

by Peke » Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:23 am

Fixed in build 5.1.0.2802+ Please retest when it gets available for public.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files [#19928]

by Peke » Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:24 am

Hi,
Better late then ever. It should be fixed as soon as MM 5.1 gets out to public.

If you feel anything to add feel free and I'll relay into bug.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files [#19928]

by miw » Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:13 pm

Glad I could help then.

TBH, I have been a gold member since 2008 and I was using MM for some years before that, so it has taken me nearly 20 years to report it. I noticed and was mildly irritated by the effect probably 6-7 years ago, but it has taken me until now to really try to get to the bottom of it. So maybe others have picked it up and been just as lazy as me.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Peke » Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:37 am

Hi,
100% true, strange is that no one noticed before you for past 20 Years :)

Added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19928

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:48 pm

Yeah. Classic corner case. :-)

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Peke » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:52 pm

Hi,
Sample track is pure silence :(

GOOD CATCH!

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:56 pm

OK. Let's do something about the swamp.

I've uploaded the debug log and some screenshots and a file that reliably causes the issue.

Ticket #5710

--miw

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Lowlander » Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:50 pm

You can attach it to a Support Ticket: https://www.mediamonkey.com/support

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:21 pm

I'm up to my ass in other alligators at the moment. Maybe next week I'll be able to drain the swamp.

In the meantime I have restored a file from backup that reliably causes the problem. I can submit that?

--miw

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Peke » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:03 pm

Hi,
It would be great if you can capture that in debug log and supply compressed in support ticket.along with one +64db Volume adjustment.

See viewtopic.php?f=30&t=86643

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:57 pm

Yep. That works too.

So far, all of the albums I have found in the class "Get repeatedly re-analysed but do not trigger a file sync" have been .flac files. I think there might be some that are not .flac, but that is certainly the great majority.

I have investigated 2 of the albums in the class "Get Repeatedly re-analysed and *do* trigger a file sync, and both albums had a track in them that was silence. This seems to cause an error in the background scan. If you do a force volume analyse, then the track has a volume adjustment of +64dB and also will not play in Mediamonkey. I deleted those tracks from the database. Problem solved as far as I am concerned. People who like to listen to whole albums may not like this solution.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Lowlander » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:05 am

You could try Tools > Edit tags > Update tags on those files and see if the volume values get written to the files.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:12 am

Hmm. I have looked into the class of albums "Get repeatedly re-analysed but don't trigger a file sync (i.e. are not changed according to the OS.) I looked at the album, and it had volume data. But then I re-scanned the directory and the values disappeared - i.e. the values seem to have been written to the database but not the tag. Since I monitor all files on startup, no doubt that detects no volume data in the tags and triggers a volume analysis, which once again fixes the database but not the tags. Rinse and repeat.

I forced volume analysis on about half the albums and verified that tags were written. Caused a massive file sync operation. :-)

I will watch to see if the number of files that gets re-analysed halves next time and post back here.

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by Lowlander » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:16 pm

So, they have both Track Volume and Album Volume values know, but get re-analyzed. Do all files on the Album (right click Find more from same > Album) have these values calculated?

Re: Mediamonkey Re-Analyses Volume repeatedly on some files

by miw » Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:11 pm

Yes - they do have album volume information visible in the details tab or "properties".

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