That Path happens for certain Android versions where Android put restrictions on file access for Apps. This prevents Sync to any custom folders.

[quote=Andre_H post_id=513364 time=1695806905 user_id=111738]
I got an S20FE at the beginning of the year and had to start the sync from scratch. Approximately 30,000 tracks, so comparable quantities.

I also had some problems with the sync (only WLAN, and only playlist based in my case) of these quantities at once, but I finally managed the initial sync by splitting it up to several steps.

Maybe try the following:
- Create a "playlist A" limited to 10,000 random tracks.
- Sync this playlist. If it fails, reduce to 5.000 tracks.
- Create a "playlist B", another 10,000 songs, but "no songs from playlist A".
- Sync these.
- Create a "playlist C", another 10,000 songs, but "no songs from playlist A and B"

... you get the idea ...

[b][u]Those playlists are only used for transferring in smaller parts and could then be deleted or simply ignored.[/u][/b]
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Glad to see you got it to work.
I really don't want to have to keep track of two items (Music Library and Playlists) sync together any time I add or change things within the library.

Just my 2 cents.
I should be able to follow the documentation/instructions to get it to work.

Thanks for the feedback,
Carl

[quote=Lowlander post_id=513356 time=1695775059 user_id=262]
Check the [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHelp:Exporting_Tracks/5.0]Sync Settings[/url] as you may have enabled syncing to both internal and external (SD) memory, which would happen during a [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/MMA_Sync_with_MediaMonkey_for_Windows/2.0]wi-fi Sync[/url].
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i went through the link again and confirmed I had my settings correct.
As far as settings for the internal storage, I make sure there are no options selected and then disable it. This will only have the SD card configuration enabled.

Thinking the files in the[b] \SD card\Android\data\com.ventismedia.android.mediamonkey\files\Mobile Music [/b]folder were messing up the sync, I deleted those. Also on the MMA I deleted those in the location tab.
I went back and tried the sync again, but it put the files back into the [b]\SD card\Android\data\com.ventismedia.android.mediamonkey\files\Mobile Music[/b] folder even though that path is nowhere in my settings. This does not make sense why the software does not use the folder/path I specified.

At this point, I have tried everything I can think of so my only conclusion is either MMW5 or MMA 2.x has a bug in the software that is no getting addressed. Would be nice if the MM tech team could comment or at least confirm they can duplicate it and maybe fix the problem.

My next step unfortunately is to look at another piece of software that can correctly sync my music to my phone. Not preferred because it gets sloppy using 2 different programs.

Thank you for the help,
Carl

I got an S20FE at the beginning of the year and had to start the sync from scratch. Approximately 30,000 tracks, so comparable quantities.

I also had some problems with the sync (only WLAN, and only playlist based in my case) of these quantities at once, but I finally managed the initial sync by splitting it up to several steps.

Maybe try the following:
- Create a "playlist A" limited to 10,000 random tracks.
- Sync this playlist. If it fails, reduce to 5.000 tracks.
- Create a "playlist B", another 10,000 songs, but "no songs from playlist A".
- Sync these.
- Create a "playlist C", another 10,000 songs, but "no songs from playlist A and B"

... you get the idea ...

[b][u]Those playlists are only used for transferring in smaller parts and could then be deleted or simply ignored.[/u][/b]

Check the [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHelp:Exporting_Tracks/5.0]Sync Settings[/url] as you may have enabled syncing to both internal and external (SD) memory, which would happen during a [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/MMA_Sync_with_MediaMonkey_for_Windows/2.0]wi-fi Sync[/url].

[quote=Lowlander post_id=513352 time=1695764965 user_id=262]
Do you have an SD card in the phone? Are you using the latest betas, which include Sync fixes?
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I do have a 512GB SD card in my Samsung S20 FE phone. This is where I pointed the MMW5 sync location to use.
From what I can tell, I am using the latest MMA beta version. The MMA version I am using is 2.0.0.1102 with the Pro license.


Carl

Do you have an SD card in the phone? Are you using the latest betas, which include Sync fixes?

Let me first say, I am not trying to be jerk but I not convinced this software is robust enough.

My sync requirements are bare minimum.
The reason I say this is because I only want to take what is in my MMW " folder and copy/sync to my MMA folder without any changes.
I DO NOT use or have any:
1) Playlists
2) Audiobooks
3) Music Videos or any other Videos
4) Podcasts
5) TV

In my Library, I ONLY have MP3's and Album art. The only tags I control or change are :
1) Genres
2) Album Artist/Artist
The rest are unchanged from when I ripped the CD.

All I am trying is to mirror what is on my MMW folder.
It cannot do that since the last sync separated my library into 2 main folders.

Even the MMW and MMA cannot match when having them open.

Carl

Discrepancies could be based on what you selected to be Synced, maybe Podcasts, Audiobooks, Video, TV, etc files weren't included.

Other differences could be based on what's saved in the tags, not all [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHelp:Library/5.0#DB_/_Tag_Mismatches]tags in MMW may be saved to the files[/url].

Unfortunately it's a case of finding actual file differences before any conclusion can be reached on how this happened, and the latest [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86639&sd=d]MMW[/url] and [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=89969]MMA[/url] betas would be recommended.

I decided to delete ALL media from my phone because everything I tried in the past did not work.

I even deleted my old "Music " folder on my phone and created a new phone folder named "Mobile Music".
1) After setting up the parameters on MMW , I first tried to sync it through the USB cable. That failed after just an hour.
2) I went back and deleted all the media files again and using the same parameters, I sync again.
a) After 30hrs of sync time, MMA said it completed with error. It could not download 8 tracks. When I looked up what tracks
they were 1 to 3 songs on 4 albums.
b) Not all files went to my "Mobile Music" folder. Some of them were in \SD card\Android\data\com.ventismedia.android.mediamonkey\files\Mobile Music folder. Even at that when comparing MMA to MMW, MMA Is reporting 1less genres, 141 more albums and 280 less tracks (not 8 as reported in the error)

I believe my settings are correct based off the above posts so something is definitely wrong with the software.

At this point, I don't have faith in this software sync ability. I do like it for managing my music library, just not the sync feature.

Carl

[i]Unselected Library files[/i] requires files to be in the MMW Library. Thus it won't remove files deleted from MMW.

[quote=Lowlander post_id=513191 time=1695348722 user_id=262]
[quote=Ckerch post_id=513187 time=1695343129 user_id=109324]I also selected delete Unselected Library files.[/quote]As mentioned, that won't do the trick. You need to set it to [i]All other media files[/i] instead.
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I went back to the link you provided to review it again.
I guess I interpreted the sentence "Unselected Library files will delete any files not on the Sync List selection that are in the MediaMonkey Library" incorrectly. I was thinking the sync list was generated when initial sync was started.

Thank you for the clarification and will resync again with "All other media files" selected.

Carl

[quote=Ckerch post_id=513187 time=1695343129 user_id=109324]I also selected delete Unselected Library files.[/quote]As mentioned, that won't do the trick. You need to set it to [i]All other media files[/i] instead.

[quote=Peke post_id=513178 time=1695317896 user_id=213]
Hi,
Can you check and isolate few files and see their Paths?

MMA generally avoid tracks that are not synced with MMW as if you do not have Device -> PC sync and MMA scans my CAM videos I would not like that these are deleted with sync. That is why we need to determine if files are duplicates or were already on device and their path. Because if you are right then things definitely needs to be improved for both MM versions.
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Here are a couple of examples:
1) Under Genres, I have a Classic Rock category. I would see a new category of Classic Rock, Classic Rock. I verified under MM5 and Properties in Windows file manager that it does not exist in my Active Music Collection but only on my sync phone file. The other thing is it only on 1 file in the album. Saw multiple instances of this.
2) I have the "Twister" movie soundtrack that is classified under Various Artists. Again with 1 track, it took the composer and created a folder under that name. It kept the genres as soundtrack but also used as the Artist. Another oddity was the bit rate is 0 but size is still 6.7K. Saw multiple instances of this.
3)I would get a total duplication of a directory. For instance, directory labeled "Baker-Pasma Families" would be duplicated under folder "Baker,Pasma Families" . The "-" would turn into a ",". A similar issue was the "-" would turn into a ";". Again a duplicate folder.
4) This one I cannot find a pattern. Again, with one track it made a folder "Carla Thomas; Otis Redding" . I don't have that in my Active Music collection.

If you need more examples let me know.
Before loading the MMA 2.0, I did multiple sync tries with some of those have conversion set on under sync profile. During those times, I would get Global error2 and not finish. That could have caused these extra files and messed up genres, but I don't know. I would assume it would be corrected with 2.0 if setup correctly.

Again, my goal is to take my "Active Music collection" and duplicate (only Music and Album Art only) it on my phone.
My setting are :
* Under sync list (Library>device) I select my "Active Music Collection" and under that, selected "All Active Music Collection"
I also selected "Delete other file in Samsung phone > "Unselected Library files".
* Under sync profile > Auto Conversion > "nothing selected".
* Under sync list (device > Library) nothing selected
Verified correct directory for phone.
All rest is default.

Let me know if these are correct and if you need anything else.

Carl

[quote=Lowlander post_id=513165 time=1695305531 user_id=262]
No, [url=https://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/WebHelp:Exporting_Tracks/5.0#Sync_List_(Library_--%3E_Device)]unselected library files[/url] only deletes files from device that are not selected in the MediaMonkey Library (but are in the MediaMonkey Library).
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I did select , in this case, under sync list (Library>device) my Active Music Collection and under that, selected "All Active Music Collection"

I also selected delete Unselected Library files.