[REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

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Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Peke » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:19 am

Hi,
Thank you for reaching out, it was our pleasure.

Happy Monkeying!

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Dynamic990 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:26 am

Hi Peke,

I just wanted to let you know that the import of Involved People Tags now works when adding/rescanning ID3v2.4 tagged MP3 files in build 3108.

Thanks again and best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Peke » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:44 pm

Hi,
No, thank you for patience and all the pointers, samples and help.

It should be resolved in 2024.1.0.3108+ https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view ... 433#c78278

Happy Monkeying to all of us!

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Dynamic990 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:28 am

Hi Peke,
Peke wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:42 pm I confirmed your behavior and reopened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21433
ok, thank you!

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Peke » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:42 pm

Hi,
Thank you, I confirmed your behavior and reopened https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21433

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Dynamic990 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:27 am

Hi Peke,
Peke wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:43 am Can you send me DL URL to one file in PM? I would like to test and confirm.
I have just sent you a PM with a link.

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Peke » Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:43 am

Hi,
Can you send me DL URL to one file in PM? I would like to test and confirm.

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Dynamic990 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:11 am

Hi Peke,
Peke wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:41 am MM still for compatibility reasons support old way, but if track only contain TIPL and id3v2.4 it will be used correctly
Unfortunately I cannot confirm this.

All my MP3 files only contain the TIPL frame for the Involved People. Nevertheless, when adding them, the Involved People are not displayed in the corresponding field in MMW.

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by Peke » Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:41 am

Hi,
MM still for compatibility reasons support old way, but if track only contain TIPL and id3v2.4 it will be used correctly, also when you update tags (right click -> edit tags -> Update tags [CTRL+S]) with id3v2.4 then only TIPL will be used.

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People

by Dynamic990 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:48 am

Hi, Peke
Peke wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:12 pm I managed to replicate now added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21433

I just wanted to let you know that filling the Involved People field from the TIPL framestill does not work on Add/Rescan of MP3 files in MMW build 3106.

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People [#21433]

by MattTown » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:27 pm

Thanks. Maybe now the Copy and Swap Fields addon will be able to exchange information with the Involved People field, omitted before now.
Cheers
Matt

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People

by Dynamic990 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:26 am

Hi Peke,
Peke wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:12 pm I managed to replicate now added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21433
great!
Thank you very much for your efforts.

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People

by Peke » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:12 pm

Hi,
I managed to replicate now added as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21433

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People

by Dynamic990 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:43 pm

Hi Peke
Peke wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:13 pm 1. Set MM to ID3v2.3
2. Fill involved field and save tags
3. make a copy of file
4. Switch MM to ID3v2.4
5. Use folder browser to load file and Update/Sync tag (CTRL+S) of file copy to ID3v2.4
6. MM do not import/see Involved field of file copy on MM restart?

For ME it works.
I'm not surprised that it works like this.

You are using MMW to tag the file and to convert the format from ID3v2.3 to ID3v2.4. MMW writes the Involved entry into the ID3v2.3 IPLS frame and also reads it from it, even if it is set to ID3v2.4. You can also see this if you look at the header of the .mp3 file in a hex editor. This does not comply with the ID3v2.4 standard (see point 4.2.2 in this document).

If you use an external tagger (e.g. MP3Tag or MusicBrainz Picard) which adheres to the ID3v2.4 standard, MMW unfortunately does not recognise the Involved People field when the .mp3 files are added.

You can try it out for yourself:

1. Set the external Tagger (e.g. MP3Tag or MusicBrainz Picard) to ID3v2.4 only.
2. Fill invoved field with the external tagger
3. Set MM to ID3v2.4 only.
4. Import file in MMW
5. The Involved People field is not recognised by MMW.

Best regards
Christian

Re: [REQ] Using ID3v2.4 TIPL Frame for Involved People

by Peke » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:13 pm

Dynamic990 wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:44 pm I have. The Involved People are only imported and displayed in the corresponding field if the .mp3 file contains ID3v2.3 tags. If the .mp3 file was tagged in ID3v2.4 format, the information is not displayed at all, also not in the extended tags. This is probably because the ID3v2.4 standard frame for the Involed People (TIPL) is not supported by MMW although the ID3v2.4 tag format has been set in the options.
If I got this correctly then this do not work for you?
1. Set MM to ID3v2.3
2. Fill involved field and save tags
3. make a copy of file
4. Switch MM to ID3v2.4
5. Use folder browser to load file and Update/Sync tag (CTRL+S) of file copy to ID3v2.4
6. MM do not import/see Involved field of file copy on MM restart?

For ME it works.

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