Shuffle list starting with track - MM2024 [#21468]

by **Mindfish** » Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:59 am

I have captured a debug log and submitted it to a ticket (#13542). Hopefully you can see something useful in the log.

by **Lowlander** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:36 am

Please capture this in a debug log (step 4b) and attach the log to a Support Ticket: https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=86643

by **Mindfish** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:57 am

Like I said I'm on beta 3162 and I have Clear list & play selected + subsequent selected and Shuffle (On) Entire list checked. I have Shuffle enabled.

I select a playlist from the Playlists section of the Media Tree and double-click a song from the List View. But I still get the old behavior of only shuffling subsequent tracks, but not the entire list.

by **rusty** » Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:50 pm

Summary:

The new Option > Player > Shuffle (On): [x] 'Entire list' option overrides '...play selected + subsequent' to play the entire list (starting with whatever track has been double-clicked) when 'Shuffle' is active. Behaving similarly to MM5 except that the playing list displays the actual play order.

When this option is disabled, then when 'Shuffle' is active it won't modify the 'Play now' action (and will behave the same as 2024.1).

Thanks for the feedback to get this feature implemented.

-Rusty

by **Lowlander** » Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:32 pm

If you double click the file you want to start playback at it should add the whole list and play the clicked file.

You need to make sure that Default 'Play now' action is set to Play selected + subsequent and that Shuffle (On): Entire List is enabled for this to work.

If this doesn't work, can you please describe what node in the Media Tree and what View in the Filelisting you're using? A screencast would be the most helpful in troubleshooting this.

by **Mindfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:16 am

So the only way to do this is to stick with MM5?

by **Rob_S** » Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:30 am

As best I can tell this morning, in the latest beta 3162, the following is working again:

Just slide (drag and drop ) the desired play first or already playing track to the top of the Playing list, and then right-click, play now(shuffled). All one single mouse movement.

If you have bookmarking turned on, the track will continue playing from where you left off, and play all the remaining tracks shuffled.

by **Mindfish** » Mon Jul 07, 2025 4:43 am

Okay, but that brings me back to my original question.

So for example I will have have a playlist:
Song 1
Song 2
Song 3
Song 4
Song 5

I want to play Song 3 first and then have Songs 1, 2, 4 and 5 in random order after that:
Song 3 <-- playing
Song 5
Song 2
Song 4
Song 1

How do I do this with the new "Entire list" option?

by **Mindfish** » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:46 am

I finally had time to test this and it doesn't seem to be working for me.

I'm on beta 3162 and I have Clear list & play selected + subsequent selected and Entire list checked. But with Shuffle enabled and selecting Play now, MM still just plays the songs after the selected song and not the entire list.

by **Rob_S** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:37 am

Well, I think the way it was gave me much more control.

Now if I am playing a shuffled list, and I try to play a track in the middle of my shuffled list, it unpredictably moves to the top and reshuffles everything, with no warning.

I vote please go back to the way it was, much more useable.

by **Rob_S** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:24 pm

Before 3150, if I shuffle my tracks after playing a few somgs from the list, it would shuffle only the remaining tracks from there on down.

It seems now it shuffles all of the tracks in the playing list, including the ones I have already played. I thought this was going to be optional behavior.

Is there in fact an option to do one or the other??

by **rusty** » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:27 pm

Hi,

This is fixed in the 2024.2.0.3150 build posted to the beta forum.

Please let us know if it solves the issue for you. Thanks!

-Rusty

by **rusty** » Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:14 pm

Tracking at https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21468

Thanks for all the feedback!

-Rusty

by **Mindfish** » Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:47 am

martinmggm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:01 pm Version: MediaMonkey 2024.0.0.3082

Description:
When shuffle mode is on and a song is manually started, playback is limited to the tracks below the selected song in the playlist or album. Tracks above the manually started song are not played.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open a playlist or album.
2. Turn on shuffle mode.
3. Start a song manually (e.g., the 5th track in the list).
4. Watch the playback:
- Only songs below the 5th track will be shuffled.
- Songs above the 5th track are skipped.

Expected Behavior:
Shuffle mode should randomly play all tracks in the list, regardless of which song was started manually.

Actual Behavior:
Shuffle mode only plays tracks below the manually started song, excluding the rest of the playlist.

Haha yeah, that would be the clearest way of wording it in bug report form. Thanks!

by **Rob_S** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:25 pm

Easy way to fix this:

Just slide (drag and drop ) the desired play first or already playing track to the top of the Playing list, and then right-click, play now(shuffled). All one single mouse movement.

If you have bookmarking turned on, the track will continue playing from where you left off, and play all the remaining tracks shuffled.

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