Timeless Track Sort Off [#21916]

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Re: Timeless Track Sort Off [#21916]

by Lowlander » Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:42 pm

It's not necessary, but an issue in an earlier release caused both long scanning and long syncs. After the initial Sync on the new build the subsequent syncs should be fast again like it used to be.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off [#21916]

by TheEmpathicEar » Sat Jan 10, 2026 5:30 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 09, 2026 8:50 pmYes
I did a WiFi Sync from MMA to test. It seemed to check all 17194 files. Also, someone tell me how to get MM5 [or MMA] to tell me how many files there are in total in my collection?
Q: Should I uncheck "Scan file directories for Artwork" and try again?
EDIT: Oh, yeah. I unchecked and the next WiFi Sync from MMA was almost instantaneous. So, how or when is it necessary to check the box again?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off [#21916]

by TheEmpathicEar » Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:41 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:24 pm There already is an option to scan (or not) for external Artworks.
Is this, "Scan file directories for Artwork", the option in question? Or, is it something else?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off [#21916]

by Lowlander » Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:24 pm

There already is an option to scan (or not) for external Artworks.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by TheEmpathicEar » Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:10 pm

MiPi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:09 am Problem was fixed, it should be a lot better from the next beta build. Scan time could be somehow slower, because new version now checks also existence of external artworks during rescan (we consider to make it optional too), but the main problem was related to the unwanted "updated" flag assigned for some files, which were in fact not updated, it added these files to the updated statistics and consequentially slowed things down a lot.
As you say above, v3201, is a bit faster. If external artworks are extending the time of the scan, it would be nice to be optional?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by MiPi » Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:09 am

Problem was fixed, it should be a lot better from the next beta build. Scan time could be somehow slower, because new version now checks also existence of external artworks during rescan (we consider to make it optional too), but the main problem was related to the unwanted "updated" flag assigned for some files, which were in fact not updated, it added these files to the updated statistics and consequentially slowed things down a lot.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by MiPi » Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:50 am

TheEmpathicEar: I reproduced the rescan problem with some file types like AAC and MPC. I will fix it soon as: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21916

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by TheEmpathicEar » Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:32 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:20 pm Subsequent scans still show large amount of updated files?
Yes. That's why I ran the Add/Rescan and got the same number of updated files. Something is wrong here. That's why I hoping that @PeKe could do a "Remote Session".
EDIT: One thing we can agree on is that if you run Add/Rescan twice in a row w/o changing anything, updated files should not be exactly the same?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by Lowlander » Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:20 pm

Subsequent scans still show large amount of updated files?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by TheEmpathicEar » Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:11 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 5:52 pm It is actually slower as more is read during scanning. This is still being fine tuned.
I made sure that "Manual" was selected and not "Manual and Continuously". Scan results has been reporting 17,140 updated files. I am not sure what that means. I just did two Add/Rescans in a row. This is not what I want. It might explain why MMA is so abyssally slow when I do a WiFi Sync. All these updated files [if that is really what's been happening] would slow things down? It would be nice to be informed about what I consider to be major changes?
EDIT: If @Peke had time to do a remote it would help immensely.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by Lowlander » Tue Jan 06, 2026 5:52 pm

It is actually slower as more is read during scanning. This is still being fine tuned.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by TheEmpathicEar » Tue Jan 06, 2026 5:46 pm

Lowlander wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:46 pm Were files updated outside of MediaMonkey? It would explain both.

Is every scan of the same folder slow? Did you set MediaMonkey to rescan each file?
1. Whenever i make changes using Windows Explorer, I add/rescan to pick up any changes. But, yes, it's probably better to use Add/Change.
2. The graphic above looks like Options>Library in MM5.
3. Overall, I was trying to add the bonus track 17 after altering the tags and file names to match up with the other 16 tracks. I tried deleting the entire album and then using the bonus track album in it's entirety [with track 17]. It works fine now.
4. It does seem like Add/Rescan is still a bit slower than usual, but not as bad before.

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by Lowlander » Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:46 pm

Were files updated outside of MediaMonkey? It would explain both.

Is every scan of the same folder slow? Did you set MediaMonkey to rescan each file?

Re: Timeless Track Sort Off

by TheEmpathicEar » Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:51 pm

Track 17 now appears between Tracks 3 and 4. Weird stuff. I think I did another sync from MMA.
EDIT: There is something changed in this version of MM5. Add/Rescan is MUCH slower than in previous version. And, in MMA, WiFi sync is abysmally slower than before? What's going on here?

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