Please hide the "screw my entire MP3 collection" f

FabUK · Post by **FabUK** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:55 pm

Hi,

When you try to delete a folder (eg. tracks incorrectly ripped, etc...) you are asked 3 options:
1. Remove from the Library only
2. Remove from the Library and the Computer
3. Delete All Content from the Library and the Computer

So, basically if you inadvertenly select (yes it happens...) the third option, you are saying goodbye to ALL your tracks.

Why such an option (so rare and so destructive) is easy to action? Can't it be hidden in the depth of the menus. Yes its current position is logical but I am sure that people who are deleting their entire collection are ready to browse a couple of menus before pressing the "red button"...

Thanks in adv for your comments/votes. Bye for now.

Post by **jiri** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:12 pm

I don't think it's really different from what you can do e.g. in Explorer by pressing Delete key when a folder is selected. So, I don't see any problem. However, we can wait for other opinions...

Jiri

pah68 · Post by **pah68** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:51 pm

I did it once...and once only, I was very careful after that

FabUK · Post by **FabUK** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:18 pm

jiri wrote:I don't think it's really different from what you can do e.g. in Explorer by pressing Delete key when a folder is selected. So, I don't see any problem. However, we can wait for other opinions...

I agree but with the explorer you still can undo the problem, you've got the Recycle Bin. I personnaly think it is not worth the risk (deleting your entire collection) to keep this feature there but as you said let's wait for other comments...

pah68 wrote:I did it once...and once only, I was very careful after that

I did it once too and I am also very careful now. The thing is that I would even be... "relaxed" if the option wasn't there.

Thanks for your comments.

Post by **Lowlander** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:13 pm

The third option deletes all content from your library and PC, not just the selected content? If that is the case it should be removed. I was confused myself this weekend by the wording chosen here.

Depending on your machine settings MM will delete to the trashcan. So an undo is possible depending on the total file size and the amount your trashcan can hold.

pah68 · Post by **pah68** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:41 pm

I think it should have a "are you sure" followed by, "oi, are you really sure because you could well be in tears if your not" verifications. Considering what the impact of a couple of misguided clicks of the mouse could actually do.

abrazor · Post by **abrazor** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:37 am

Personally, I really appreciate the option to delete a track from the computer. If your media is organised by MM then it is easy to identify tracks you don't want, (for example by ratings you have given, or time since you last listened to it) and then delete. Also, after you choose delete it prompts you a second time as to whether or not to really delete, and then sends it to the recycle bin where you can easily undelete, so I don't see the problem.

Post by **Lowlander** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:00 am

The problem seems to be that the third option deletes all track in your library. That would be a problem as many people have collections that are bigger than the recycle bin can hold and thus many tracks would be deleted permenantly. But I'm not sure yet if the third option does this or not??

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:05 am

I was under the impression that ALL CONTENT refers to not only deleting mp3s, but the whole folder you selected, including any Album Art (etc), as to delete the entire database would be an illogical interpretation when clicking on one folder.

Post by **Lowlander** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:35 am

But what's the difference between 2 and 3? That 2 only deletes any content from that folder that's in that folder and 3 will delete .doc files etc as well?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:52 pm

Lowlander wrote:But what's the difference between 2 and 3? That 2 only deletes any content from that folder that's in that folder and 3 will delete .doc files etc as well?

As far as I can tell, this is correct. 3 deletes playlists, pics, text files and everything else.

2 only deletes the selected files.

1 only removes them from the library.

Peter

Risser · Post by **Risser** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:55 pm

I do think it might be useful to have something that warns you if you are deleting more than a certain number or MB-size of files.

For example,
"You have chosen to completely remove 53,196 files totalling 202,794 MBs from your computer FOREVER. Do you wish to continue?"

Uh, no, I'll pass, thanks.

Even:
"You have chosen to completely remove 31 files totalling 117 MBs from your computer forever. Do you wish to continue?"

Whereas deleting a file or two, or even a folder with the numbers below the threshhold wouldn't send up a red flag like that.

Peter

FabUK · Post by **FabUK** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:25 pm

Thanks all for your partcipation.

Effetcively the problem is the third option which as far as I can remember simply delete your collection.

1. I think this is not something to place on a contextual menu (right click) which is better used for daily tasks.
2. Effectively as most of you have suggested it would be relevant to have a "Are You Sure" kinda warning.

Thanks again for your answers. Appreciated.

wolfzell · Post by **wolfzell** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:55 am

I think this problem is somehow related to the wish for a "Party-Mode".

So if MM would have a password protected "safety-mode" with (at least) 3 stages, the problem would not be as sincere as it is now.

There should be a way to adjust the working mode of MM:

1. Player only, no changing or deleting of music files is possible.

2. Player and edit mode. It is possible to change information of music files, but not to move or delete them.

3. Free access.

Another even more flexible possibility would be to add a (password-protected) adjustment menu with several options to activate/deactivate:

1. edit Musicfiles
2. delete Musicfiles
3. move Musicfiles
4. change Playlists
5. etc.

That way you can adjust your personal "safety". If you don't change your collection anymore, you can just activate the access for playlists and be sure nothing else gets mixed up.

That would add a "party mode" and add some security to critical options as you would have to allow them first leaving normal operation with restricted access.

bye
Wolfgang

Slick · Post by **Slick** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:50 pm

You might as well put another menu choice "format hard drive now"! If you think the third choice should remain you can't see the forest for the trees. You've got to put yourself in the everyday users' shoes. Even if they understand that the third choice is rather final they could fat finger the third choice by mistake (touch pads) and be screwed. At least put a skull and crossbones or something to get their attention.

Please hide the "screw my entire MP3 collection" f

Keep easy access to "Delete All Content from Library and Computer"

Please hide the "screw my entire MP3 collection" f