Volume Leveling still does not work since I started with MM
Moderator: Gurus
Volume Leveling still does not work since I started with MM
Hi,
I activated "volume leveling" in MMA and MMW, but there is still a difference in volume at each song in MMA pro.
Does not matter if official or beta MMA/MMW versions.
So I thought I have to analyze all songs in MMW first and sync to the mobile device.
settings:
89 db, "per Album" and under "general" I maked all 3 points. Correct?
In menu "play" I marked also "volume leveling"
Still a difference from -14,7 to +16,8 db.
After this, I synced, but no improvement on mobile device or PC.
In MMW it is not so important for me, most Music I hear on mobil device, and that is really annoying.
Hope I translated correct, because I have the german version.
Hopefully, someboby can help me.
Thank you.
Frank
I activated "volume leveling" in MMA and MMW, but there is still a difference in volume at each song in MMA pro.
Does not matter if official or beta MMA/MMW versions.
So I thought I have to analyze all songs in MMW first and sync to the mobile device.
settings:
89 db, "per Album" and under "general" I maked all 3 points. Correct?
In menu "play" I marked also "volume leveling"
Still a difference from -14,7 to +16,8 db.
After this, I synced, but no improvement on mobile device or PC.
In MMW it is not so important for me, most Music I hear on mobil device, and that is really annoying.
Hope I translated correct, because I have the german version.
Hopefully, someboby can help me.
Thank you.
Frank
Last edited by frs1966 on Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:40 am, edited 7 times in total.
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Leveling would need to be enabled in MMA for this to work, unless you have Volume Leveling enabled in the Device Profile (and sync MMW > MMA).
Also per Album does result in variations between tracks (as it preserves the variations as on on Album), which would be most notable when shuffling between tracks from different Albums. I don't know if any MMW setting affects if MMA does per Track or per Album.
Lastly see: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... ilit=level
Also per Album does result in variations between tracks (as it preserves the variations as on on Album), which would be most notable when shuffling between tracks from different Albums. I don't know if any MMW setting affects if MMA does per Track or per Album.
Lastly see: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... ilit=level
Download MediaMonkey ♪ License ♪ Knowledge Base ♪ MediaMonkey for Windows 2024 Help ♪ MediaMonkey for Android Help
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
I enabled Volume leveling in MMA and MMW. Still different volumes
Last edited by frs1966 on Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Hi Frank,
I tested this out with MMA Beta 1.1.0.396 (on a Nexus 5 / Android 4.4.2) against several M4A files (encoded with AAC) and volume leveling worked correctly.
Can you confirm:
- What version of MMA ?
- What device / version of Android ?
- Are ratings from MMW synced to the device?
Thanks.
-Rusty
I tested this out with MMA Beta 1.1.0.396 (on a Nexus 5 / Android 4.4.2) against several M4A files (encoded with AAC) and volume leveling worked correctly.
Can you confirm:
- What version of MMA ?
- What device / version of Android ?
- Are ratings from MMW synced to the device?
Thanks.
-Rusty
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Hi Rusty,
-MMW 4.1.6.1726
-MMA 1.0.7.0313
-Sony Z3 compact / android 4.4.4
-yes, the sync works properly. Also the song rating, in both directions.
Sometimes after a sync, most playlists in MMA show and contain only 500 songs, so I sync again and most pklaylists show correct song quantity.
I already used the MMA beta, but after EACH sync, at first everything is fine. But after some minutes, ALL playlist are deleted automatically. I don't understand this problem.
Volume leveling does not work at MMW, MMW beta, MMA pro, MMA beta.
Volume analysis of complete music collection.
Frank
-MMW 4.1.6.1726
-MMA 1.0.7.0313
-Sony Z3 compact / android 4.4.4
-yes, the sync works properly. Also the song rating, in both directions.
Sometimes after a sync, most playlists in MMA show and contain only 500 songs, so I sync again and most pklaylists show correct song quantity.
I already used the MMA beta, but after EACH sync, at first everything is fine. But after some minutes, ALL playlist are deleted automatically. I don't understand this problem.
Volume leveling does not work at MMW, MMW beta, MMA pro, MMA beta.
Volume analysis of complete music collection.
Frank
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
I'm also unable to replicate Moto G 4G 4.4.4 using 1733/399 all ok on my side. I wonder if sony again put some of their enhancements to ...... things up. I remember that there was something on Sony tipo where you needed to disable it.
Best regards,
Peke
MediaMonkey Team lead QA/Tech Support guru
Admin of Free MediaMonkey addon Site HappyMonkeying



How to attach PICTURE/SCREENSHOTS to forum posts
Peke
MediaMonkey Team lead QA/Tech Support guru
Admin of Free MediaMonkey addon Site HappyMonkeying



How to attach PICTURE/SCREENSHOTS to forum posts
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Frank,
I suspect that the problem is that files were copied/synced to a directory to which MMA doesn't have write access. To confirm, can you tell me whether ratings appear correctly in MMA? Do they update when you change them in MMW and then re-sync via Wi-Fi ?
If so, the problem is the same as that reported at: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26&t=78750
Please confirm.
If that's the problem, can you update to MMW 4.1.6.1376 and MMA 1.1.0.402 (clean install) and let me know if the problem persists?
Thanks.
-Rusty
I suspect that the problem is that files were copied/synced to a directory to which MMA doesn't have write access. To confirm, can you tell me whether ratings appear correctly in MMA? Do they update when you change them in MMW and then re-sync via Wi-Fi ?
If so, the problem is the same as that reported at: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 26&t=78750
Please confirm.
If that's the problem, can you update to MMW 4.1.6.1376 and MMA 1.1.0.402 (clean install) and let me know if the problem persists?
Thanks.
-Rusty
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Hi Rusty,
song rating WIFI sync works well, in both directions.
Sometimes "sync failed" at first time, so I repeat. And new added songs in MMW never synct to MMA at first sync, but at second try its ok.
But in generell sync works.
I habe this Volume Leveling Problem since several earlier versions.
Problem still persists with MMW 4.1.6.1733 and MMA 1.1.1.0411
By the way, what means "clean install"?
Frank
song rating WIFI sync works well, in both directions.
Sometimes "sync failed" at first time, so I repeat. And new added songs in MMW never synct to MMA at first sync, but at second try its ok.
But in generell sync works.
I habe this Volume Leveling Problem since several earlier versions.
Problem still persists with MMW 4.1.6.1733 and MMA 1.1.1.0411
By the way, what means "clean install"?
Frank
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
Hi Frank,
I was asking whether ratings changes are syncing PC <--> Device properly, because if they aren't then it's indicative that a sync problem is preventing certain metadata from syncing, and would imply that Volume Leveling metadata also isn't syncing. Since it's working, it means that the volume leveling metadata is also syncing.
A 'clean install of MediaMonkey for Android' means a brand new installation that first removes all previous versions of the software, tracks, settings, and the database. It's a last resort if there are unexplained problems with the database / synchronization, but isn't warranted in your case.
As far as why this is occurring, I'm not sure--it's working on all of our devices (but we don't have an Xperia Z3 in house for testing). Are you certain that it isn't working at all? The best way to test is to create a playlist with 2 Tracks +10db and 2 tracks -10db. Then play it with Volume Leveling enabled and play it once disabled. Note that there is currently a limitation that for very low volume tracks, the volume can only be raised slightly (see details of this issue at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=11957 ).
Please confirm whether you're observing the problem only with very low volume tracks OR if occurs with the +10db tracks as well. Thanks!
-Rusty
I was asking whether ratings changes are syncing PC <--> Device properly, because if they aren't then it's indicative that a sync problem is preventing certain metadata from syncing, and would imply that Volume Leveling metadata also isn't syncing. Since it's working, it means that the volume leveling metadata is also syncing.
A 'clean install of MediaMonkey for Android' means a brand new installation that first removes all previous versions of the software, tracks, settings, and the database. It's a last resort if there are unexplained problems with the database / synchronization, but isn't warranted in your case.
As far as why this is occurring, I'm not sure--it's working on all of our devices (but we don't have an Xperia Z3 in house for testing). Are you certain that it isn't working at all? The best way to test is to create a playlist with 2 Tracks +10db and 2 tracks -10db. Then play it with Volume Leveling enabled and play it once disabled. Note that there is currently a limitation that for very low volume tracks, the volume can only be raised slightly (see details of this issue at http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=11957 ).
Please confirm whether you're observing the problem only with very low volume tracks OR if occurs with the +10db tracks as well. Thanks!
-Rusty
"Volume Levelling" still inoperable in MMA/MMW
Since my first steps with MMA/MMW, the Volume Levelling does not work.
I posted this several times.
Does not matter if I use official or beta versions (most time I use beta's) of MMA/MMW
All my AAC Songs (all from iTunes) are louder than the mp3-Songs. And the Songs in mp3 are still different.
I several times runs "Volume Analysis".
iTunes uses 89db, so I do in MMW.
That's is the most annoying error in MM, becauseI most time I listen with headphones.
PLEASE REPAIR THIS BUG.
I use MMA Pro and MMW German Gold, newest betas
I posted this several times.
Does not matter if I use official or beta versions (most time I use beta's) of MMA/MMW
All my AAC Songs (all from iTunes) are louder than the mp3-Songs. And the Songs in mp3 are still different.
I several times runs "Volume Analysis".
iTunes uses 89db, so I do in MMW.
That's is the most annoying error in MM, becauseI most time I listen with headphones.
PLEASE REPAIR THIS BUG.
I use MMA Pro and MMW German Gold, newest betas
Last edited by Lowlander on Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Merged with existing post
Reason: Merged with existing post
Re: Volume Leveling does not work
I deletes MMA and pro from my device, deleted all media and installes/synced again. This tooks 2 days because of my huge collection.
Now it works.
Now it works.
AGAIN, AGAIN AND AGAIN: NO LEVEL VOLUME!!! PLEASE SOLVE!
Hi,
over 1 year ago I bought MMW gold and MMA pro. I also used most betas.
I really enjoy using MM. Lovely Program. In generell.
But since I started, volume levelling is not working. MMW AND MMA! Official and ALL used betas!
Now I moved to a new smartphone, complete new installation and sync. Same problem.
What is the problem? Why don't you solve this problem? I am not the only one with this matter.
WIFI Sync works (except some smaller points I mentioned in another topic), in both directions, for all informations, also the star rating.
Can you imagine how annoying that is, especially hearing music with headphones?
The volume difference is upto 3 steps at the volume control!
Level Volume is enabled at MMA/MMW. I run volume analysis at MMW several times.
All my m4a Songs (all from iTunes) have same volume. So that is ok. But all mp3 songs are different, most are much lower than m4a, a few are louder than m4a.
Why does it work with m4a, but not with more common mp3?
I sent several debug logs to Ventis, no reply at all.
Shall I create playlists depending on the file format instead of music taste?
I really would be happy if this problem will get a higher priority.
Thank you.
Specs: Windows 10, MMW 4.1.10.1769, Sony Xperia Z5, Android 5.1.1, MMA 1.1.3.0502
over 1 year ago I bought MMW gold and MMA pro. I also used most betas.
I really enjoy using MM. Lovely Program. In generell.
But since I started, volume levelling is not working. MMW AND MMA! Official and ALL used betas!
Now I moved to a new smartphone, complete new installation and sync. Same problem.
What is the problem? Why don't you solve this problem? I am not the only one with this matter.
WIFI Sync works (except some smaller points I mentioned in another topic), in both directions, for all informations, also the star rating.
Can you imagine how annoying that is, especially hearing music with headphones?
The volume difference is upto 3 steps at the volume control!
Level Volume is enabled at MMA/MMW. I run volume analysis at MMW several times.
All my m4a Songs (all from iTunes) have same volume. So that is ok. But all mp3 songs are different, most are much lower than m4a, a few are louder than m4a.
Why does it work with m4a, but not with more common mp3?
I sent several debug logs to Ventis, no reply at all.
Shall I create playlists depending on the file format instead of music taste?
I really would be happy if this problem will get a higher priority.
Thank you.
Specs: Windows 10, MMW 4.1.10.1769, Sony Xperia Z5, Android 5.1.1, MMA 1.1.3.0502
Last edited by Lowlander on Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Merged with existing post
Reason: Merged with existing post
Re: Volume Leveling does still not work since I started with
@Lowlander
To move my topics still at the end of older (not solved) topics does not make the matter solved.
To move my topics still at the end of older (not solved) topics does not make the matter solved.
Re: Volume Leveling still does not work since I started with
I also have a Sony D6616 (T-Mobile Z3) running Android 5.0.2, MMA 1.3.0.0694, MMW 4.1.15.1830 and the track leveling doesn't work on the MMA version. Songs show a "leveling" from -6 dB to + 6 dB (listed in the properties of the file). When I click off/on the "Level volume" option, the volume of the songs don't change (and I am pretty sure I can hear a -6 dB or + 6dB volume change. Now it DOES seem to work on the MMW version (I can hear the change and I turn the leveling on/off).
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong on the MMA version?
Also, the overall volume of the music is quite low. I have to turn it almost all the way up. When I do, & run Google Navigation, the Nav voice is LOUD. I'd like my music to compete with the Google Nav voice.
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong on the MMA version?
Also, the overall volume of the music is quite low. I have to turn it almost all the way up. When I do, & run Google Navigation, the Nav voice is LOUD. I'd like my music to compete with the Google Nav voice.
Re: Volume Leveling still does not work since I started with
I've always found Android soft compared to Apple. One way around this is to level files on sync. Any value up to 95dB will generally work without problems. Leveling doesn't work for all file types though.
Download MediaMonkey ♪ License ♪ Knowledge Base ♪ MediaMonkey for Windows 2024 Help ♪ MediaMonkey for Android Help
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)
Lowlander (MediaMonkey user since 2003)