Play Shuffled mixed

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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

Post by Blackcat12 »

Thank you for your considered and detailed response, Rusty. I agree that 'Queue' would align much more with the associated functionality than 'Play'. This is similar to Peke's suggestion, but 'Queue' does helps clarify. Clearing up the menu title names to reflect the actual functionality would be helpful.

It would be nice to have the selection automatically begin playing under the condition outlined previously. I am not suggesting to add complexity by changing menu names based on state. My suggestion was to add a configuration switch to control the default action under the condition described. ie; if the play list queue is empty and 'Play Mixed' is selected, then automatically begin playing if the configuration switch is set. If the configuration setting is unchecked (can be the default), then functionality is as it is today.

I understand that 'Not Everyone' would want Play to be initiated automatically, but it is not right to suggest that improvements cannot be made based on that requirement. Configuration switches are broadly used already in the application for exactly the purpose of configuring to individual preferences.

I don't know if adding more menu items is an option instead of a configuration setting, but perhaps it could handled by adding 'Play Mixed Now' to the menu as an example?

I understand that this is a very minor concern and doesn't justify anything more than a minor effort to address as the solution only saves an additional click. I do appreciate the consideration.
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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

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I still think it would be important that regardless of the active play mode, shuffled or otherwise, if I select play next, add next, queue next, or whatever next, that in fact the first selected track DOES play next!!

This means it has to not merely be added to the now playing list, but also to be inserted into whatever shuffled sequence the player uses before whatever track it was going to play next.

Admittedly, I have resolved this for myself somewhat by randomizing my "now playing" list, and then playing that randomized sequence in display order, thus "play next" then works for me. However, this seems like an unnecessary workaround.
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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

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Rob_S wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:54 am I have resolved this for myself somewhat by randomizing my "now playing" list, and then playing that randomized sequence in display order, thus "play next" then works for me. However, this seems like an unnecessary workaround.
It was always like that for past 15+ years. Use normal playback, but Randomize list manualy so that you have full control of Next/Last QUEUE, that was expanded with Mixed as it adds selected tracks randomized to Next/Last Position.

Personally I would never ever wanted that Playback auto start if paused/stopped. Only exception is when Now Playing is empty and MM playback is stopped, but again I would use that in 1/10 times.
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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

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I think we are accepting that the intent is to add to queue, and the discussion is about the wording of the menu.

Play next (to be renamed Queue next) places the selected item in queue to be played next, but does not start playback.

If playback is already underway, it plays next, for me preferably also in shuffle mode.

If playback is not underway, regardless of whether there are already any tracks in the playing list, play now places the selected track at the current location in the queue and starts playing it.
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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

Post by Peke »

Hi,
Rob_S wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:12 pm If playback is already underway, it plays next, for me preferably also in shuffle mode.
It is not possible ATM as MM do not know what would next track be in shuffle mode we are thinking to introduce background queue list that will make things possible, but not yet fully concrete as in soome cases playback will not be fully shuffle, but predetermined randomized playback. Something for another topic.
Rob_S wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:12 pm If playback is not underway, regardless of whether there are already any tracks in the playing list, play now places the selected track at the current location in the queue and starts playing it.
Play now behavior depends on your Setting, for me it is clear+play selected only.

So regarding rename Play -> Queue we can all agree it clears things a lot.

FYI I already for Play now action when playback is underway use PLAY LAST so that playback is not interrupted.
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Re: Play Shuffled mixed

Post by Rob_S »

Thanks for the detailed explanation, and for consideration of request. I accept that it is what it is for now.
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