Does the "Added" field import the "Date Added" field from iTunes? [#19297 #21500]

[bone0670]

Hi, I've been trying to get off iTunes for the longest time and MediaMonkey seems perfect, there's only 2 things I'm having trouble with at the moment.

1) After importing the generated Library.xml from iTunes, the "Date Added" field I have for the date and time when I imported the a song to iTunes doesn't seem to be carried over. Every single song in the "Added" property in MediaMonkey just says "Today 6:27PM" (the time I imported). I'm fairly certain that the Library.xml does contain this information, and I'm wondering if I did something wrong during the import or if MediaMonkey supports it.

2) This one is pretty minor and I can live without it, but iTunes has a way to "heart" a song (just a true/false value) and again, I'm pretty sure the Library.xml has that information - is there any way to represent that in MediaMonkey?

ps: I've played around with libpytunes (github . com/liamks/libpytunes) which showed me that the information should all be in the xml

Thanks!

[Ludek]

1) Tracked as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19297

EDIT: Will be in 5.0.4.2659

2) I haven't tested atm, but AFAIR the "heart" songs are those with Rating = 5 stars , isn't it ?

EDIT: Just testing it, and they have Loved = TRUE , so it seems really different from Rating.
i.e. it would require a new field for this value in MediaMonkey.

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<dict>
			<key>Track ID</key><integer>141</integer>
			<key>Name</key><string>Heartbroken</string>
			<key>Artist</key><string>Hooverphonic</string>
			<key>Album Artist</key><string>Hooverphonic</string>
			<key>Album</key><string>With Orchestra</string>
			<key>Genre</key><string>Pop</string>
			<key>Kind</key><string>MPEG audio file</string>
			<key>Size</key><integer>7252592</integer>
			<key>Total Time</key><integer>171964</integer>
			<key>Track Number</key><integer>4</integer>
			<key>Year</key><integer>2012</integer>
			<key>Date Modified</key><date>2022-07-01T15:05:51Z</date>
			<key>Date Added</key><date>2022-08-03T15:49:18Z</date>
			<key>Bit Rate</key><integer>320</integer>
			<key>Sample Rate</key><integer>44100</integer>
			<key>Rating</key><integer>80</integer>
			<key>Album Rating</key><integer>80</integer>
			<key>Album Rating Computed</key><true/>
			<key>Loved</key><true/>
			<key>Artwork Count</key><integer>1</integer>
			<key>Persistent ID</key><string>31FB2C406C13A7CD</string>
			<key>Track Type</key><string>File</string>
			<key>Location</key><string>file://localhost/C:/Temp/iTunes/04%20-%20Hooverphonic%20-%20Heartbroken.mp3</string>
			<key>File Folder Count</key><integer>-1</integer>
			<key>Library Folder Count</key><integer>-1</integer>
		</dict>
 

[bone0670]

Thanks for the reply! Great to hear that it's coming in an update down the line.

Regarding the "Loved" attribute, where would I report it or post about a feature request or anything?

[Barry4679]

EDIT: Just testing it, and they have Loved = TRUE , so it seems really different from Rating.
i.e. it would require a new field for this value in MediaMonkey.

Defaulting heart-marked tracks to max rating could be a useful workaround in the meantime?

Or probably better ... , if it is easy in iTunes to select and alter all tracks marked with a heart ... maybe the conversion Quick Start documentation could advise to do this and set all of these tracks to max rating?

[MicrORDwave]

Sorry for necro-ing, I'm new to this forum and MediaMonkey in general.

I'm running MM5.0.4.2679 and still getting the issue of the Date Added field not being imported correctly from iTunes when moving my library over. In addition, when I clear my MM database and do a re-import, after adding all the files I get a pop-up message saying that MM is unable to read my iTunes XML file and prompting me to retry or browse for another file. After manually selecting the file, it loads and the progress bar says "Importing data from iTunes", but the Added field remains the same as before, ie when I loaded my library and not when I added the tracks to iTunes.

Here's a copy of the XML file, I've opened it and verified that it does contain the information of when the track was added to iTunes -- https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wnFIRg ... share_link

I'd very much appreciate if someone could walk me through the steps to resolving this issue, as its more or less the only thing stopping me from fully transitioning to MM and buying a Gold license.

[Ludek]

Hi, I can confirm that the Date added is included withing the attached XML.

Are you sure that you are scanning the files from
C:/Users/Benjamin Boey/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music/
and not e.g. track copies from another location on your disk?

EDIT: I probably see how the date added could fail to transfer.
This can happen for tracks already in MM5 database and imported from XML later + the track needs to have same tags as in iTunes except for the Date Added. The workaround is to start with clean DB and import just from the XML (not adding the music folder location to Add/Rescan dialog).

I'll fix this for 5.0.4.2680 as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=19297

Thanks for reporting!

[MicrORDwave]

Hi Ludek,

Thanks for your super quick reply - I was expecting maybe a week of waiting for a response! You're right, clearing the database and checking only the box to import music from iTunes, and not the one on top to read from my music folder, worked like a charm. It might also have had something to do with my iTunes library (the .itl file) being "damaged", apparently it's been like that for over a year though I've been using it, adding new music and playlists with no issue. Once I fixed that and made sure to only check the "import from iTunes" box without also scanning the folder, my library was imported into MM with all the metadata present.

I've more or less transitioned over to MM now, will just have to redo some of the smart playlists and understand syncing to my phone a bit better. I'm also curious about any Genius-like features MM might have, or maybe something like Spotify's "most played in the last year" feature, perhaps integrating with last .fm which I've got set up; if you can point me to any threads or documentation where I can read up on that, I'd be grateful, though I understand that that'd be a little off-topic for this thread.

Thanks and have a good week ahead!

[adamlove]

Hi all,

Just bought MediaMonkey and the Android app, super excited to (hopefully) be moving over from iTunes.

It seems it's not actually copying iTunes "Date Added" to MediaMonkey "Added" or "Timestamp" fields.

I've started from a clear database, and imported the recently exported iTunes XML only.
It appears that "Timestamp" is the date that the audio files were most recently modified.
For example, I changed all songs in my library by "Rüfüs Du Sol" to "Rufus Du Sol" on Friday, and they're coming up with Friday's timestamp, not with "date added" - which was many years ago - that is in iTunes.

The Date Added is essential for the way I run my music categorising, smart playlists, and music business etc. Is there a way I can get these applied to the "Added" column in MediaMonkey?
Many thanks and appreciate your help!

Adam

[Peke]

You must make sure you are using latest 5.0.4. release (Help -> About) from https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewt ... 86639&sd=d in order to have that function.

[robert2025]

This is not working for me, but strictly speaking I am not importing from itunes, but I am importing from an itunes XML.

I initially imported from jriver and noticed that all the "date added" fields were being imported to a field called "timestamp" instead of "added", as seen on the details tab of the file properties. I thought I might be able to fix it by exporting to itunes xml, changing the field name from "timestamp" to "DateAdded", clearing the database and then reimporting. But that did not work. It still went to the "timestamp" field.

Here's and example of the xml I was importing :
<key>DateAdded</key><string>27/03/2010 4:29 PM</string>

I am now stuck.

[Ludek]

Hi Robert,
seeing our code it is expecting this:
<key>Date Added</key><date>2011-02-27T21:45:44Z</date>

i.e. space between 'Date' and 'Added' and the format is <date> and not <string>, this is standard in iTunes' XML, from where you took the alternate format?

[robert2025]

What came out of the itunes export FROM mediamonkey (not itunes) was like this:

<key>TimeStamp</key><string>27/03/2010 4:29 PM</string>
<key>DateAdded</key><string>Today 7:40 PM</string>

I removed the DateAdded and changed TimeStamp to DateAdded

I'm tearing my hair out trying to wrangle dates like this:
27/03/2010 4:29 PM
into this:
2011-02-27T21:45:44Z

using notepad++

Would really appreciate any pointers.

It's odd that mediamonkey doesn't export in a format it can read!

[Ludek]

Hi Robert,
thank you for reporting this,
will be fixed as https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=21500 for the next build