Link Is fixed, I hope that it worked.
If You are interested you can read about it on My Fan Page.

Bump. Does it work now?

Fixed.

Peke,

Your link to vcdrive is wrong. I'm really anxious to try this with my Zen Xtra and I can't seem to find your file.

I agree with you,
Possibility To export All playlists will be great.
I'm thinking that it can be possible to do with in a Script but I'll see if I can get starting point for some better script developer than me ;)

Peke,

It turns out that I had a copy of gen_vcdrive.ZIP on my computer (Google desktop search found it) that I must have downloaded it when I tried your system tray tool.

I followed the process you outlined but ran in to two problems. #1 is that the synchronization doesn't work with my autoplaylists - it works fine with a normal playlist. #2 is that the process will copy all tracks to the VCDrive folder when all I want is the playlist .m3u file. This can be a problem if the playlist has 100's of tracks.

Unless I'm overlooking something, short of having full MM support for Jukebox/Zen devices, I still think the best route is an 'Export All Playlists' command or a dialog box for export playlist selection similar to the Portable/Audio device playlist synchronization selection option.

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Alan

[quote="rgbeach"][quote="phoque"]Take a look at the [url=http://www.nomadworld.com/downloads/firmware/wma-zenmicro.asp?nProdID=556&sProd=Creative+Zen+Micro]Zen Micro MTP Firmware[/url].
It should enable you to mount it as an external Harddisk and copy mp3-files onto it. Please tell us if it really worked :-)[/quote]

I just tried this, and it doesn't work :(

I am desperate for MM to support the Zen Micro![/quote]

what do you mean that it didn't work?

normally the micro uses a special file system and is not seen as removable media by windows.
but with this firmware ("plays for sure" firmware) it uses FAT as filesystem and is mountable by windows without the need of any special drivers or software

a friend of mine has this firmware on his player, and it works like expected. so MM should have no problems syncing.

despite of that i would appreciate if MM would support the native file system of the creative players.

[quote="Peke"]Here is workaround.
1. Download Virtual CD Recording Plugin From My Fan page and install it in MM.
[/quote]

Peke,

I think the link on the Virtual CD recording page is going to the wrong file. This is what I'm seeing.
[url]http://peke.frwh.net/plugins/gen_traycontrol10.zip[/url]

I look forward to trying the workaround.

Thanks!

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Alan

Here is workaround.
1. Download Virtual CD Recording Plugin From My Fan page and install it in MM.
2. When MM in restarted You need to set General Device Plugin to See Virtial CD Recording Drive (X: By default).
3. Now Sync. MM with set Portable Device.
4. After Sync right click on device and select open in explorer.
5. Do what Ever doing when sync Using Explorer

This is only workaround and can speed some Proccess, and works with playlists.

Note: Check gen_vcdrive.ini for customizing settings in Plugin.

P.S. This also works with other Devices that are not Mass Dive Storage and can be Accessed with Explorer.

Hmm nomadsync uses libnjb (for the linux version) thats where i joined this thread lol

Just plug the jukebox in, right click on the tray icon to connect it and an explorer window opens.

You can then drag and drop audio files into the explorer window, or you can drop playlists and it will move all the files in the playlist across or you can tell it to auto create playlists for each folder you drag onto it, or you can tell it to sync with a specific folder.

The sync has a bit of work needed on it yet, it compares a folders contents with whats on the jukebox, you can then transfer files across to make both sides match, what it doesn't do is delete. If i remove a file from the sync folder it just tells me there is a file on the jukebox that isnt on the pc and allows me to move it back, it won't delete the file from the jukebox.

It can auto resample all your files to a common format on route to the jukebox (very handy for ogg files that creative wont support).

Oh and while its coneccted, your jukebox becomes a sql database. It also offers a web interface for the player and streams audio from the jukebox

[quote="Peke"]I'm curious, can someone of you explain me how Notmad Works (Transfer Procedure Step-By-Steo), does it accept Playlists (M3U) and is there Auto Sync option in notmad?[/quote]

The best way to explain would be to check out Redchair's online help,
[url]http://www.redchairsoftware.com/notmad/support/tome/[/url]

Basically Notmad looks something like Windows Explorer, with functions and nodes added that are specific to managing MP3 players including synchronization.

The player I have is large enough to hold all my tracks, so after I export a .m3u file, I open Notmad and drag the playlist onto Notmad's playlist node (or use the right click "Send to" option). All files are skipped because they are on the player already, then the playlist is copied to the playlists area on the player. Creative Jukebox and Zen players use a proprietary file system and database format, but there is a software developer's kit available that might give you more details.
[url]http://developer.creative.com/articles/article.asp?cat=3&sbcat=38&top=53&aid=71[/url]

There is a project on SourceForge.net that uses the SDK that might also give you some insight.
[url]http://nomadsync.sourceforge.net/[/url]

I'm just an end-user, so I can't comment as to how any of the code works.

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Alan

I'm curious, can someone of you explain me how Notmad Works (Transfer Procedure Step-By-Steo), does it accept Playlists (M3U) and is there Auto Sync option in notmad?

[quote="Empyre"]I've got an 80GB Jukebox 3 and a 20GB Zen touch.

I use notmad to transfer files to them and its pretty good. Its just a pain not having everything integrated into MM[/quote]

I also have an 80GB NJB3. I hope there's a plug-in sometime soon, but for now I'd like to see an 'Export all playlists" option. It would simplify the process of exporting many playlists to a folder so that the lists can be transfered to the player using Notmad.

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Alan

I've got an 80GB Jukebox 3 and a 20GB Zen touch.

I use notmad to transfer files to them and its pretty good. Its just a pain not having everything integrated into MM