Zen Micro support

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Zen Micro support

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How soon will mediamonkey be able to support Zen Micro?
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zen micro

Post by rusty »

It's not planned for 2.3 :( . Moving this to the wishlist.

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Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra

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I have a NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra 30gig and was just getting ready to try and sync w/ MM. Does Rusty's comment mean I shouldn't even try bacause it won't work?
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Post by sadao »

That depends on whether the zen has a built in DB or whether it just reads the file's tags. If it's the latter then you won't have any issues. If it is the former MM won't create the DBs so you're out of luck (unless there is a zen plug in available, which I don't think there is).

If the Zen synchs through some other software that allows use to synch playlists, then you can create the playlists in mediamonkey and use your other software to synch the playlist.
phoque

Zen Micro for MM

Post by phoque »

Take a look at the Zen Micro MTP Firmware.
It should enable you to mount it as an external Harddisk and copy mp3-files onto it. Please tell us if it really worked :-)
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Post by Empyre »

libnjb is a C library and API for communicating with the Creative Nomad JukeBox and Dell DJ digital audio players. Newer devices using the Microsoft MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) are NOT supported.

Any chance MM could use this to add support for all the Creative jukeboxes?
rgbeach

Re: Zen Micro for MM

Post by rgbeach »

phoque wrote:Take a look at the Zen Micro MTP Firmware.
It should enable you to mount it as an external Harddisk and copy mp3-files onto it. Please tell us if it really worked :-)
I just tried this, and it doesn't work :(

I am desperate for MM to support the Zen Micro!
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Post by Empyre »

I've got an 80GB Jukebox 3 and a 20GB Zen touch.

I use notmad to transfer files to them and its pretty good. Its just a pain not having everything integrated into MM
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Post by Al_G »

Empyre wrote:I've got an 80GB Jukebox 3 and a 20GB Zen touch.

I use notmad to transfer files to them and its pretty good. Its just a pain not having everything integrated into MM
I also have an 80GB NJB3. I hope there's a plug-in sometime soon, but for now I'd like to see an 'Export all playlists" option. It would simplify the process of exporting many playlists to a folder so that the lists can be transfered to the player using Notmad.

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Post by Peke »

I'm curious, can someone of you explain me how Notmad Works (Transfer Procedure Step-By-Steo), does it accept Playlists (M3U) and is there Auto Sync option in notmad?
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Post by Al_G »

Peke wrote:I'm curious, can someone of you explain me how Notmad Works (Transfer Procedure Step-By-Steo), does it accept Playlists (M3U) and is there Auto Sync option in notmad?
The best way to explain would be to check out Redchair's online help,
http://www.redchairsoftware.com/notmad/support/tome/

Basically Notmad looks something like Windows Explorer, with functions and nodes added that are specific to managing MP3 players including synchronization.

The player I have is large enough to hold all my tracks, so after I export a .m3u file, I open Notmad and drag the playlist onto Notmad's playlist node (or use the right click "Send to" option). All files are skipped because they are on the player already, then the playlist is copied to the playlists area on the player. Creative Jukebox and Zen players use a proprietary file system and database format, but there is a software developer's kit available that might give you more details.
http://developer.creative.com/articles/ ... =53&aid=71

There is a project on SourceForge.net that uses the SDK that might also give you some insight.
http://nomadsync.sourceforge.net/

I'm just an end-user, so I can't comment as to how any of the code works.

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Like he said lol

Post by Empyre »

Just plug the jukebox in, right click on the tray icon to connect it and an explorer window opens.

You can then drag and drop audio files into the explorer window, or you can drop playlists and it will move all the files in the playlist across or you can tell it to auto create playlists for each folder you drag onto it, or you can tell it to sync with a specific folder.

The sync has a bit of work needed on it yet, it compares a folders contents with whats on the jukebox, you can then transfer files across to make both sides match, what it doesn't do is delete. If i remove a file from the sync folder it just tells me there is a file on the jukebox that isnt on the pc and allows me to move it back, it won't delete the file from the jukebox.

It can auto resample all your files to a common format on route to the jukebox (very handy for ogg files that creative wont support).

Oh and while its coneccted, your jukebox becomes a sql database. It also offers a web interface for the player and streams audio from the jukebox
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Post by Empyre »

Hmm nomadsync uses libnjb (for the linux version) thats where i joined this thread lol
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Post by Peke »

Here is workaround.
1. Download Virtual CD Recording Plugin From My Fan page and install it in MM.
2. When MM in restarted You need to set General Device Plugin to See Virtial CD Recording Drive (X: By default).
3. Now Sync. MM with set Portable Device.
4. After Sync right click on device and select open in explorer.
5. Do what Ever doing when sync Using Explorer

This is only workaround and can speed some Proccess, and works with playlists.

Note: Check gen_vcdrive.ini for customizing settings in Plugin.

P.S. This also works with other Devices that are not Mass Dive Storage and can be Accessed with Explorer.
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Post by Al_G »

Peke wrote:Here is workaround.
1. Download Virtual CD Recording Plugin From My Fan page and install it in MM.
Peke,

I think the link on the Virtual CD recording page is going to the wrong file. This is what I'm seeing.
http://peke.frwh.net/plugins/gen_traycontrol10.zip

I look forward to trying the workaround.

Thanks!

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