I encounter few Coding Apps, but most apps that uses min SP3 are games, I think that compatibility pack for office 2003 to load office 2007 documents needs SP3 but I'm not sure.

> Isn't that why we are here?

For a workaround? I'd say no. For a fix? I'd say yes.

> I looked about MS statistics and less and less users use SP2 due the fact that
> lots of newer programs take advantage of SP3 fixes/upgrades.

I am surprised to hear that. I do not recall seeing a single app that has SP3 as minimum requirement, and of the 30 or so apps I use none TMK are particularly advantaged by SP3.

Isn't that why we are here?

I looked about MS statistics and less and less users use SP2 due the fact that lots of newer programs take advantage of SP3 fixes/upgrades.

> Yes, I know I just confirmed your initial observation.

OK, sorry.

> SP2 version that I had never experienced problems, only thing is that I have SP1 OEM install CD
> and SP2 Standalone upgrade and SP3 ISO From MS which has been installed after SP3 Release.

If you installed SP3, then your installation is not SP2. SP2 is [b]Microsoft Windows Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158 : Service Pack 2)[/b]

> For now good is that we know workaround

Bad though for the new user who does not.

Yes, I know I just confirmed your initial observation. There must be some sort of DLL conflicts/missing Function entry points, ... SP2 version that I had never experienced problems, only thing is that I have SP1 OEM install CD and SP2 Standalone upgrade and SP3 ISO From MS which has been installed after SP3 Release.

For now good is that we know workaround and easy way to fix the problem.

> Dll files show that you have WMP 9 Installed like I suspected

Peke, my [i]original report[/i] shows I have WMP9 installed!! That's part of Win XP SP2.

Dll files show that you have WMP 9 Installed like I suspected :(

Possibly remotely related: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39602&p=204615#p204615

File Name       File Version
wmasf.dll       9.00.00.3250 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-21 58)
wmvcore2.dll    8.20.00.5058 built by: private/dmd_DEV(bld4act)

> They are same releases with exception that 25MB one have complete WMP 11 included.
> [url=http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8654/comparisonn.jpg][img]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8654/comparisonn.th.jpg[/img][/url]

That text re-visioned:
[url=http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44721009.gif][img]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/529/44721009.th.gif[/img][/url]

> I would Really like to get bottom of this.

That's what I like about you guys! And what is making MM so good. :)

> Can you check the properties of, either wmasf.dll or wmvcore.dll inside system32 folder on affected systems?
> Mine are v11.0.5721.5251

I no longer have my Apps2 installation (WinXP SP2 with no WMF update) which exhibited the tagging failure. I have my Apps4 installation (WinXP SP2 plus official MM WMA 11 update) which does not exhibit the tagging failure but which exhibits absense of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Media" -> "Format" , and this shows

[code]File Name File Version
wmasf.dll 9.00.00.3250 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-21 58)
wmvcore2.dll 8.20.00.5058 built by: private/dmd_DEV(bld4act)[/code]

They are same releases with exception that 25MB one have complete WMP 11 included.

[url=http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8654/comparisonn.jpg][img]http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8654/comparisonn.th.jpg[/img][/url]

I would Really like to get bottom of this. Can you check the properties of, either wmasf.dll or wmvcore.dll inside system32 folder on affected systems?

Mine are v11.0.5721.5251

> but I installed WMP 11 from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx?displang=en&qstechnology=

Oh dear. That's a very different version to the MM official version: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/127/89579332.gif

Strange on all three PCs I have have that Registry value :( two SP3 and one SP2 but I installed WMP 11 from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx?displang=en&qstechnology=

> it is on http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5571

Whoops! Filed by me!! :) Sorry and Thanks. (Note to beginner self: remember to cross-link from forum...)

>>> Can you give me Registry value of "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Media" -> "Format" property?
> BTW that Registry entry must exist as it shows current version WMP and Windows media Format libraries installed.

Must... or should?? Hard looking did not find it.

BTW, on a second fresh Windows XP SP2 installation, but plus WMA 11 update, I do see [b]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Media[/b] but empty - so no "Format" property.

> Do you have [b]HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Software\Microsoft\WindowsMedia\Setup\BlockingRefCounts\App[/b] registry entry?

That first installation is gone, but on this second (with WMF11) - no.

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Software\Microsoft holds only

[quote]MediaPlayer
Multimedia
Windows
Windows NT
[/quote]

It sounds like it would be worth you setting up Win XP SP2 in a VM.

it is on http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=5571 BTW that Registry entry must exist as it shows current version WMP and Windows media Format libraries installed.

Do you have [b]HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Software\Microsoft\WindowsMedia\Setup\BlockingRefCounts\App[/b] registry entry?

Shouldn't this now be in Mantis?