My bad. I didn't click the link to gege's post in the ticket.

This is tracked [url=http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=7198]here[/url].

[quote="rusty"]Note that build 1343 already included fixed wrt list & tree views & menu. I've documented others at bugs #7198, #7200.

-Rusty[/quote]

Hello rusty.

I red ticket 7198, and it doesn't mention placing the tabs in the titlebar.

Tho this is much needed.
.It would reduce vertical space significantly ( A whole bar height! ).
.It would provide eye candy ( aero background for the tabs )
.It would solve the "+ button" problem.
.It would have the same mechanics and apparency as the 4 major web browsers ( internet explorer, firefox, chrome, opera )
=> making it something familiar for every user.

jiri mentioned in his UI proposal for MM4 to model the tabs after Google Chrome.
Yet it's still far from it.

[color=#FF0000][b]Please[/b][/color] make it possible that we can decide if we want to use the aero frame around the theme or not,
by skinners or users ( maybe a overwrite aero frame option , in Design menu!)
the aero frame destroys the unique look from the most skins ,special dark ones!
Peke already post something similar at Mantis ( 7003 )

Note that build 1343 already included fixed wrt list & tree views & menu. I've documented others at bugs #7198, #7200.

-Rusty

[quote="heartofhate"]the menu of opera (firefox just copied this)[/quote]
Actually, I believe Mozilla had FF4 UI mock-ups out showing the intentions of moving to that prior to Opera releasing theirs. However it may stem from Office having something like that... who knows.

[quote]The last Firefox beta I messed with still gave users the option between the two (with the tabs above being the default). Which, I would prefer the option to choose as I would likely want to be able to place them below the menu and/or some tool bars.[/quote]

yep, you can still do this AND in some earlier post someone disliked the menu of opera (firefox just copied this): at the beta you can still have your menu on the top like in the previous firefox versions.
maybe that's something for MM4? it would be interesting to see if the monkey-icon of geges first solution would represent the menu (i kind of dislike the bigger menu buttons though for example in solution two).

The last Firefox beta I messed with still gave users the option between the two (with the tabs above being the default). Which, I would prefer the option to choose as I would likely want to be able to place them below the menu and/or some tool bars.

I just saw that firefox has now the tabs in the titlebar since the latest beta.

That means all 4 major browser have the tabs inside the titlebar. And have replaced the menu by a button or an icon.

That is:
.Firefox
.Internet Explorer
.Chrome
.Opera

It's the way to go.
Please Mediamonkey team. Don't be late on this train.

[img]http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=3457.0%3Battach=14578%3Bimage[/img]

In other words, what we want is customization through skins and the ability to move the Title bar + alternative Titlebar formats + the ability to hide it like IE (with show on Alt).

Really? I'd MUCH rather have the chrome or opera look.

[quote="gege"][img]http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1294/tabsinmm4a.png[/img]
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I like this. I don't like that Chrome look.

Thanks for clarifying, Lowlander. I hope that if we're given the ability to have the menu bar elsewhere on Vista+, the ability to have it above the tabs is "added/retained." As always though, that's my own opinion/request.

I can't confirm what the initial setup looked like on XP, but I can't move the main menu (or any toolbar) above the tabs on XP.