This version contains fix for the problem mentioned in this thread. If you have this problem, you can download it, otherwise there's no need for it and you can wait for the next release.

Jiri

jiri, is this updated d_WMDM.dll file recommended for all users (i.e. is it a "bugfixed" version?), or just those with the specific Creative Vision:M-related problem described in the original post?

No. Download the file and move it into the mediamonkey plugins folder. ( By default, C:\Program Files\MediaMonkey\Plugins )

1. Close Media Monkey if it's running.

2. Click the link and choose "Save" instead of "Open". Save the .dll in C:\Program Files\MediaMonkey\Plugins.

3. Start MM again and all should be well.

So how exactly do you use this link? I click on it and my computer asks me what program I want to use to open the .dll file, and I choose media monkey. MM then opens and starts scanning as normal. Did it install?

Thanks, that worked a treated. Only problem is, it seems to take *much* longer than before to decide that no tracks need synchronizing.

The sync problem has been fixed! Very simple instructions from Jiri, that worked after the second sync:

From Jiri:
[quote]I hope I found the problem, please check out http://www.mediamonkey.com/beta/d_WMDM.dll and use it in MM\Plugins folder instead of the original version.
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This has worked brilliantly for me guys!

Again the URL for the new dll: [url]http://www.mediamonkey.com/beta/d_WMDM.dll[/url]

Bleh, it's discouraging to be back having random tracks re-syncing.
1. I removed all music off of Zen.
2. Deleted the media monkey folder in my music.
3. Added only a few tracks to my MM library (to simplify the diagnostics)
4. Hit sync. 5 tracks Added.
5. Hit sync. same tracks retagged, removed, then re-added.
6. Hit sync. only 2 of the original 5 are retagged, removed, and then re-added.

7. Uninstalled MM, removed the MM folder in 'My Music', reinstalled.
8. Still having issue. Will start the process of transferring all video over to PC and try formatting Zen device.
[b]Update 3-13-07[/b]
9. Formatted Zen device. Unistalled MM. Deleted MM settings folder in "My Music" and still having sync issue after reinstalling.

This is peculiar issue seen in other posts:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11898&highlight=recopies
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10008&highlight=recopies
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14851

Currently, I am able to sync successfully to my Motorola Q, but not my Zen, which are both currently connected. Selecting the Q, hitting sync, MM reads the device, and sees that there isn't any need to sync. Selecting the Zen and then hitting sync, results in removing content and resyncing the tracks. Very weird.

I will email my log file to Jiri. Next up is removing MM, and starting from scratch. I have a lot of video on my Zen, otherwise i would have added formatting the device to the above steps, but i'm hoping to avoid that, and my transfer time.

Hey bmilner, I saw your post in my old thread regarding this issue. First off, sorry to hear about your ongoing struggles.

For anyone having this problem, follow the directions for creating a debug log:
[url]http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69[/url] This is what helped lead me to my solution because I was able to recognize folders that were no longer part of my library but yet they were somehow still being scanned during the sync process. My conclusion was a corrupted database, which led me to the following solution:

Since this issue just popped up again for me on my Vision:M 60gb, I'm going to rehash the process:
1. Backup then delete the entire Media Monkey folder in the "My Music" folder in "My Documents." This is the folder that contains the mediamonkey.mdb file, and other settings files (be prepared to lose these). Just about everything of relevance is or can be stored in the mp3 tag so don't worry about losing ratings, art, etc. if you have MM configured to store these things in the mp3 file itself. Things that you will lose are playlists (but you can export these), number of times a song's been played, volume analysis, that kind of thing.
2. Restart MM, rescan, and sync.
3. Crap. Hmm. My own advice doesn't seem to be working this time. You know you have a problem when you hit sync, and the tracks to be tagged counter is going nuts. Well, next step is to run the debug, to see what's happening. Guess it'll be a long night. Will update my progress.

Just so you guys can try and trouble shoot this one and save a ton of time, only add a few songs after you clear out your MM library. This will limit the amount of info in the log file making it easier to read and will let you quickly sync with your Zen to determine after each step if the problem gets fixed.

The log posted above didn't help, because it seems that MediaMonkey_Debug.exe wasn't used to generate it. Anyone having this problem, please generate a log using the latest MM version and e-mail it to me.

Jiri

I tried rebuilding the database from scratch but it didn't make any difference. Is there anything I can do to help track this down - eg will a debug log or anything like that be of use?

All help appreciated - I'm a big fan of MM but this is making it unusable.

I too am confused how I can check the time stamp of a file already on the player. You can't just browse to it in Explorer I don't think. I tried viewing the file in Zen Media Explorer and you can't get timestamp data there. I tried copying from the device to desktop, but that of course made the file created/modified right THEN.

I also tried viewing the file in Media Monkey itself, but the Timestamp field is blank for it.

So obviously more than one person is seeing this. Its nearly a showstopper as every sync is now recopying *thousands* of tracks, taking hours.

Please let me know how I can assist you in tracking this issue down.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "file date on the player" - I can't see any way of retrieving this info. There is no date shown in the Windows Explorer file properties, and it doesn't seem to be shown inside MM either.

I'll try rebuilding the MM database as has been suggested before, as I'm seeing some other weird behaviour occasionally (eg I have my device sync options set to Sync only files within a certain folder tree - but sometimes tracks outside this get synced too!)

edit: I also have the above problem with "sync only selected" - it doesn't seem to do anything at all - though I've used this on previous MM versions successfully.

I'm using 2.5.5.996 and Vision:M firmware 1.61.01e.

I'm Having exactly the same issue with my vision M 30g

Also, the "sync only selected" doesn't work.. the progress bar opens for a second then closes without any effect. If I right click on a playlist and then click sync.. it only sends a random number of files to my zen... different every time... and also then empties out some other playlists at random. very frustrating!

Could you check Filedates on player before rating and after and compare both with same track in MM, this could get us some answers.