Yes, it's working now. Thanks! :D

This should be fixed in the next build.

-Rusty

All my tests were done by moving files within the same drive. And just to make sure, I disabled File Monitor, moved the files, then use Add/Rescan Folders a few seconds after the transfer completed. The problem was still there, so there must be something else.
It's interesting that the 2 columns (Track & Album Volume) are filled in correctly, but playback just ignores them. It looks like the files are analyzed but they are not marked as such in the database.

here's a question for both rusty and anyone who CAN replicate the issue.

when you copy in the files to the monitored directory so that they are then automatically added to the DB and auto analyzed.... where do you copy / move them from and how many files are you copying / moving.

This is important because if you're moving across the same drive.. it'll happen very quickly and therefore be add to the database all at the same time.
But if you are copying, or moving across different drives, it will take long and half the album might be added into the DB before the rest of the album has even finished copying.
as such,t he number of files you are moving might affect it as only a couple of files will probably move quick enough in any condition to be added all at once.


Dale.

Florin,
Thx. We'll look into this further.

Lela,
If there's anything else you can tell us about the tracks that fail to level on the device, that would be helpful.
-Do the tracks that don't play at level volume on the device have leveling coefficients attached?
-Assuming yes, do the tracks that don't play at level volume on the device, play at level volume on the PC?
-Do the tracks in question have any specific characteristics?

Thx.

-Rusty

I have this same issue, except that I only experience the erroneous level upon USB sync to another device!!! And only on certain songs... I have correctly modified all the songs, but cannot get the correct volume to play on the sync'd device... the device plays 95% of other songs at the correct level, but every one in a while, there is a song that is sync'd and plays 200% louder than the others...

Lee

Done! I've created a ticket with the log and comments: [url=http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=viewticket&ticketid=4715]TLX-298227[/url]. I hope it helps.

florin,

I've tried, but I cannot replicate these problems. All the tracks in my environment that are auto-analyzed correctly play at leveled volume.

If possible, try to find _one_ track that has leveling information but consistently doesn't play at leveled volume. Confirm this by enabling/disabling the Level Playback Volume setting, and then send us a debug log of the bug occurring.

Thanks.

-Rusty

Yes, that's correct, Volume Levelling doesn't work for newly added songs, but it seems to be related to the auto-analyze thing. If I right-click these song(s) and press Analyze Volume then the song(s) get analyzed once again and this time they are played back ok (although values in Track&Album Volume don't change).

I don't need to enable/disable the function to test this because I usually have a lot of rock music that is very loud and I can tell immediately when levelling isn't working. I have my sound volumes set to a comforting listening level, when levelling doesn't work it's pain to my ears.

florin,

If I understand correctly, then, you're saying that there's a bug with the Play > Level Playback Volume function.

Try disabling that function. Then play a track with a very high + or - db leveling coefficient. Then enable the function and see if there's a difference.

If you still see inconsistent behavior, could it be that you're using some input/output/dsp plugins that might be affecting volume?

-Rusty

Nope, the bug is still there. I did a clean install (deleted everything related to MM) and with a clean slate I only set "Automatically analyze volume..." and set Level volume playback "per Track". Adding some music in the monitored folder triggers "Analyzing volume" every time, the Track & Album Volume columns are filled in correctly, but playback volume remains elevated - playback just ignores the values in the Track Volume column. It doesn't happen all the time, sometimes it just works, but I'd say only about 1/5 times. I did repeated testing (by removing the folder from the library, then adding it from Windows Explorer), trying to figure out some pattern but I wasn't able to find one.
I even disabled File Monitor and it seems they're not related. Manually adding the folder to the library (a few seconds after the file transfer completed) gets me the same behavior. After using Clear Library, and adding back the folders, again the same behavior.

[quote="florin"]Yes, I forgot to change that setting and now it seems like it's working, but at home I'm sure it's set to Track. I think I'll try a clean install at home. Is there anyway to keep playback statistics (I use AutoRateAccurate)?[/quote]
Just backup your database file: http://www.mediamonkey.com/support/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=65

Yes, I forgot to change that setting and now it seems like it's working, but at home I'm sure it's set to Track. I think I'll try a clean install at home. Is there anyway to keep playback statistics (I use AutoRateAccurate)?

Do you use Album volume or Track volume for playback leveling. If you're using album volume the issue might be that MediaMonkey recognizes that the album isn't leveled as now it has 3 extra unleveled songs. So despite that the MP3 tracks did have album level it doesn't apply as not all tracks on album have this value. Just a guess though.

In my case the calculated values are correct (and appear in their respective columns), but MM seems to ignore them on playback - the songs are played as if they weren't analyzed (usually much louder than the rest of the library). Once I do a manual "Analyze tracks" on those tracks MM plays them correctly.

EDIT: tried a clean install on another PC and the bug is still there, but I noticed something while testing that might prevent you from reproducing the bug. I'm using a folder with 3 tracks (mp3) that have no replaygain info in their tags. These files are located in my test folder (monitored by MM). Installed MM 3.0.7. All the files were analyzed correctly and playback volume was fine also. I then moved the folder to another location (not monitored by MM). I have "Update tags when editing properties" unchecked so the actual files are not modified by MM. The files are removed from the Library by the File Monitor. I copy them back and are picked up and Analyzed. Everything is ok, playback volume is fine. I then install the latest beta (1237). I do the same thing again, but I notice that the Track Volume column is filled in even before Auto-analyze tracks is done with them (this might have happened before with 3.0.7). Playback volume is still ok. So I move the folder again, use another program to convert the files to FLAC (from mp3) and put them in the same folder. I then move the folder (which now has 6 files instead of 3) to the monitored folder. This is when things go wrong: File Monitor picks them up, they get analyzed correctly, but at playback the volume is now too high. This applies to [u]all[/u] the 6 files - mp3 and FLAC. Right-click - Analyze Volume and the playback volume is now ok for all 6 files.

Hope this helps!