1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

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Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by Lowlander » Thu May 06, 2010 11:13 am

ChrisJJ confirmed your bug so it was time to add it to Mantis as it's reproducible.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by GRW » Thu May 06, 2010 11:10 am

Thanks all, didn't realise it had been raised as it was a few weeks before this thread was originally answered - I had to bump it up 3 times. Thanks again.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 11:05 am

Lowlander wrote:@ChrisJJ, I see your point and assume an option in the Auto-Sync settings to force copy of duplicate tracks might be a better solution. This way those using playlists wouldn't need to copy the same track twice, but gives those who do want duplicate copies the option to have them.
Agreed.

But I must say I would prefer effort went first into fixing the bugs that obstruct Auto-sync use by me and I'd guess many others.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 11:03 am

GRW wrote: I then was able to right click and send that playlist to burn which gave a disc that played EXACTLY how the playlist would play just on a car stereo instead of PC. Now it won't and I don't know why.
I agree this needs fixing. IT has been filed as a bug and we can only wait.

Meanwhile a workaround: to render the playlist to a new track set, using Auto-Organise Files with Copy files to new destination based on track tags and Destination: c:\temp\MM\<Auto Number>, then (being sure to sort by filename) burn that track set to DVD.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by Lowlander » Thu May 06, 2010 11:02 am

@GRW, yes your bug has been entered in Mantis already.

@ChrisJJ, I see your point and assume an option in the Auto-Sync settings to force copy of duplicate tracks might be a better solution. This way those using playlists wouldn't need to copy the same track twice, but gives those who do want duplicate copies the option to have them.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 10:57 am

Lowlander wrote:Actually I wasn't even syncing the playlist, I never do.
OK LL, I thought otherwise because you said otherwise: "if you setup a sync with a playlist with dupe tracks and sync it, it doesn't work either."

No problem... but then your bug report http://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=6343 "3) Auto-Sync Playlist" needs correcting.
Lowlander wrote:The user still should be able to sync the same track twice if it's twice in a playlist. Some users/players don't use playlists and would still like to have the track twice
The MM device profile doesn't have support specifically for non-playlist players. I agree that if it did, that would nice, and then Auto-sync should do as you say.

Some might say that when 'Copy playlists' is uncheckmarked, MM should copy repeat tracks, but I'm not sure.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by GRW » Thu May 06, 2010 10:51 am

Lowlander, the last thing you said sounds what I need!

I am really not sure what the syncing bit is and I don't export the tracks to an ipod or anything similar. In the past I might have had a track in the playlist twice with a message telling me it already exists there and do I wish to add again. I then was able to right click and send that playlist to burn which gave a disc that played EXACTLY how the playlist would play just on a car stereo instead of PC. Now it won't and I don't know why.

Sorry if it sounds like I am repeating myself but I am not sure if my issue is being discussed or something else.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by Lowlander » Thu May 06, 2010 10:42 am

Actually I wasn't even syncing the playlist, I never do. I just wanted to test the DVD issue without burning a disc and as I suspected it worked the same way.

The user still should be able to sync the same track twice if it's twice in a playlist. Some users/players don't use playlists and would still like to have the track twice, just as some users want it twice on a CD/DVD.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [6343/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 10:39 am

Lowlander wrote:The playlist was merely used to select the tracks to be synced.
I think not. MM does not support that. You will find that MM synced the playlist itself as well as the tracks.
Lowlander wrote:How else would you force to sync the same track twice?
I wouldn't. One copy <> two copies is not what I'd call "sync".

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [6343/6343]

by Lowlander » Thu May 06, 2010 10:07 am

The playlist was merely used to select the tracks to be synced. How else would you force to sync the same track twice?

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by GRW » Thu May 06, 2010 10:00 am

But surely that doesn't resolve a burn issue? When playing a disc, that duplicate track is physically not played and therefore the issue still occurs. They are there when they are sent to burn but are not in the preview pane just before the disc is created.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [6343/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 9:51 am

On a playlist having two references to a single track file, I find Auto-sync creates on the device a playlist having two references to a single track file. This works fine. This is what I would expect. I see nothing to suggest that the non-creation of a second copy of the track file is a failure.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [6343/6343]

by Lowlander » Thu May 06, 2010 9:27 am

chrisjj wrote:I suggest the sync issue entry clarify that "Sync" means "Auto-sync".
You're right, done.

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [6343/6343]

by chrisjj » Thu May 06, 2010 4:54 am

Thanks LL.
I suggest the sync issue entry clarify that "Sync" means "Auto-sync".

Re: 1282 Burn playlist to DVD omits repeated tracks [#6342/6343]

by GRW » Thu May 06, 2010 4:30 am

This is getting annoying as it did used to this but stopped (possibly after the last update). There is no reason for MM to automatically remove these duplicates - at least ask first!!!!!

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