BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Edited: System Specifics
Windows 7 all current patches
MMA 1.0095
MM 4.1.0.1622


MMA build .0095. This happened on the previous build also.

I have done a search on this and not found this specific problem. I go to 'tracks' (should be songs .. no such thing as a 'track' any more .. no more vinyl <G>) then play a song. I have Random on.

As long as the screen is on all is okay. Next song plays when current song ends. But when the screen goes off, 9 out of 10 times MMA will not go to next song. All i have to do is press the button on phone and the song starts automatically. IF i put the screen->Display timeout to 10 minutes it will play find for the 10 minutes but then after that song completes it will again pause.

I am not sure that this is another symptom of the same problem but ... today while playing with screen on, I got a email notification. The song paused, the notification happened then when notification was complete the song did not respond. I think it was playing but it was soundless. I touched the screen and all was fine.

This does not happen with Winamp. I have been using it since it came out and it will pause only during notification but it will then continue to play. It does not pause if the screen shuts down. NOTE: i only mention Winamp because I have used it for so long and *know* that it works. I love MM on the pc (haven't used winamp on pc since first trying MM) and want to use it on the phone.

Let me know if there is anything else you need
Thanks

Samsung SG3, Andoroid 4.1.1
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Re: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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This has gotten so bad that it is not really usable right now. Will try new release when available.

Note, this did happen on the previous release.

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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the email notify acts like a phone call and monkey will stop to allow you to hear the phone call.
it should have started back up again.
if your screen was sleeping when that happened and it happens when the screen is sleeping and no other phone call or email notify happens then it looks to me to be the bluetooth program's issue.

but if it does infact work with the screen sleeping in winamp then the issue is more likely how mma works with bluetooth.

8)


edited in.

just thought does the mma play music when the screen is sleeping and your not sending it to the radio but are using the phones speaker?
because on my motorola photon it does this way fine, but i don't use bluetooth i don't trust it, not since tech tv hosts were able to build a reciver gun for bluetooth and pick up the signal from over a mile away from the person with the bluetooth phone. so nope not going to use bluetooth it is not secure enough for me.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I think you are confusing my post with another post where they guy was talking about sending bluetooth.

I connect my phone to the car with a cable. It does quite/stop when an event occurs but it always comes back. This behavior is same with MMA and Winamp. And this happens whether connected through 'headphone' jack OR just listening to phone.

MMA is the only one that 'pauses' between songs (and only after a song completes) when the screen if off. If i set the phone for 10 minute display it plays for 10 minutes then at completion of song stops.

This is clearly an issue with MMA and how it "knows" if it should play. Reaction to events.

Thanks for the ideas ... with enough ideas we might hit the one the works.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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oh sorry thought you used bluetooth.

umm? sounds like it is mma's fault but again this phone i have works fine when the screen goes to sleep and i use the speaker on the phone.
its motorola maybe its something with the way mma works with samsung?
because others have had some issues with samsung and mma also.

i've heard rumors that samsung is looking to make its own cellphone op system, its just a rumor but still of some consern for developers if they do, as that will be another op to work in to the programs.

:-?
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

Post by Tim-O-Theo »

Nah, I have a Sony Xperia T with android 4.0.4 and the very same issue.

There was another thread about this problem:
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 21&t=69086

The last post about reinstalling is mine, but I take it back,I discovered that MMA works when you put the screen to sleep if you use the phone speakers, but it doesn't work with the earjacks. It's annoying and a shame, the app looks great and just what I needed for my music.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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This is odd because after reading rovingcowboys note in another thread i was going to try to a report when it paused. but last night when i started playing music, sitting here at my desk, it wouldn't 'stop-pause', there were at times significant pauses between songs (3-10) seconds but every time i went to press the button to turn the phone on to do the report the next song would play. This was with the speakers. I will try this again with in the car and if it acts up I will then try with headphones.

Curiouser and Curiouser ... In one case, where there are just big pauses with speaker, I wonder if it is linked with the fact that MMA put 'shows' multiple songs. I reported this on a different thread. So I am wondering if it is 'pausing' is actually it picking a random song (phantom?) and not able to play .. the looking for another. Similar to what MM does when songs go missing.

Just grasping at straws now ... maybe throw enough mud and something will stick :lol:
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I listened through headphones for about 1 hour and except for the 3+ second pause between many songs it only once completely paused. After about 20 seconds or so I pressed the button for the screen and instantly the song started.

I did send a log but I don't know what it might say as the music was playing but I tried.

I will use it in the car tomorrow for a drive I will be going on and send a log from the car if it pauses again.

(rovingcowboy ... I will be sure to use cruise control and wheel to knee technique :) )

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I too have the same problem when I try to play mma through the car speakers.google media player works just fine but I don't like that media player.at times it sounds like mma wants to play the next song because I would hear like 1second of the next song then the pause.I would then have to shut off my aux and restart back up again to get mma working to play through the speakers.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Having just tried MMA 1.0.1.0096 in the car i can report that it still does not work correctly.

9 out of 10 times MMA pauses IF the display if off. As soon as I press the button the song starts .. instantaneously as if it was just waiting.

If Display Timeout is set to 10 minutes it plays fine .. until display times out.

Going back to Winamp for car usage, but will test next MMA release.

Edited: I am playing MMA sitting at the table and it appears to work when the display has timed out. There have been a couple 8-10 second pauses but no complete stoppage.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I'm thinking this might be caused by a power signal from the radio to get the song data is being seen as a phone call when the screen goes to sleep.

Does that seem like it could be the cause to you?
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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Well it would seem odd as the phone is connected to the 'radio' by a cord. I guess it is possible but ...

When listening just sitting at the table there are times that it pauses for 8-10 seconds before continuing.

When I get a 'email notification' on the phone it pauses correctly then starts right back.
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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So i'm going to take a trip down this pathway, i need your guidence dtsig for some of this.
1. Going on what i know happens when driving which i found out / discovered while driving my semi truck i believe the same could happen to tnese phones.
2. Now playing songs when driving your songs stop playing, and some times restart, so you presume it is when the screen goes to sleep,(you better be presuming that and not watching the phone.) But it stops every time, and it is able to restart.
3. Are you on a well traveled road like an interstate freeway, or back road ?
4. Are you around any semi trucks or truckstops when the songs stop,?
5. Are you around any am/fm stations at home or sub station power plants,.?

My reason for this thought is that i know for a fact cb radios on kickers can bleedover on cars am fm radios and a powered up kicker will allow the cb to be heard over the cars radio when the radio is off.. this i have done my self to talk to people in the car to get them to wake up and stop slowing down in front of me. So external power signals might be causing the radio to stop the playing of the song. It could also make the phone get hit with a heavy signal to trigger the phone call coming in to stop the sound.

But the truck has to be with in 100 feet of the car, or there has to be a 4 to 1 ratio of trucks to cars, which adds power signals in the area of a truck stop up to a strong one more then 100 feet away, i know a cb radio had cut the power to the computers that ran the fuel pumps turned all pumps to zero costs and zero gallons but pumped fuel, several drivers got free fuel.
So it could happen to a phone.

And i know radio and tv station towers will make blenders turn on and make toasters turn on. Some power companys have paid for damage like that, so i know its true, which makes me think that could be cause of the pause at home.

So you got any of that stuff around you?
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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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It is a nice try, as I say if you through enough mud against a wall ... something will stick. But in this case no. Just driving from one part of the city to another (suburbs actually).

I *Know* that it has something to do with the display timeout (and being plugged into stereo system with cable) because ever time the screen times out AND a song ends it will pause. Press the little button and it starts right up. I have waited upto a couple of minutes so it isn't just taking a real long rest.

Also, when I change the Display timeout it will play perfectly until the screen has timed out and a song ends.

As mentioned before I do have long pauses between songs at times when there is nothing plugged into the phone ... just listening through the, what is jokingly called a speaker. Sometimes 2,3 or 4 seconds. Occasionally up to 10 seconds. But no complete failure. This is true when listening in the car ... just not plugged in.

But keep throwing that mud ... maybe we can come up with something so it is usable. Otherwise i have to keep pressing the button every 10 minutes and that might cause a wreck :D

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Re: BUG: MMa pauses between songs when phone screen off

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I have observed the same thing, although I have not tested it as thoroughly as DTSig. If the screen is off when playing in the car (via aux out), it stops after the song, but starts immediately upon button press. I'm on a Samsung Note, Android 2.3. It's as if the software is waiting to see if you're still there -- as soon as you show signs of life it dives right into the next song. (Seems like that could be a desired feature at times -- if it were by design!)
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