Rating System

[tobias.sandrock@gmail.com]

I found a Bug in the MM Rating System:

0,5 stars = 1 star correct
1 = 2 wrong because 1 = 1 !
1,5 = 2 correct
2 = 3 wrong because 2 = 2 !
2,5 = 3 correct
3 = 3 correct
3,5 = 4 Stern correct
4 = 4 correct
4,5 = 5 correct
5 = 5 correct

Now MM have 1 way to rate 1 Star, 2 ways for 2 stars, 3 ways for 3 stars, 2 ways for 4 stars and 2 ways for 5 stars.
With the named change there will be 2 ways to vote each star rating.

I addition I think there isn't any need for a 10 part scalable Rating System...
I really think 99% of all MM users will be happy with a normal 5 Star Rating witch is absolutely synchron with the File Properties.

Please think about it

[Mizery_Made]

Wait, what? Maybe you could explain what the problem is again, because I think I missed something. *Scratches Head*

[tobias.sandrock@gmail.com]

[tobias.sandrock@gmail.com]

seems a little bit oversized, look at this Link:

http://ayu.kilu.de/mm_rating_system_bug.gif

[Mizery_Made]

Okay, I think I gather what you're getting at now. However, this is not technically a bug. The ID3 frame for Rating (which is POPM), can contain any value from 0-255, 0 being unknown, 1 being the worst and 255 being the highest rating. There are no set guidelines as to what value should correspond with what "Star Rating." Each program can take it's own approach to this field and hardly be considered a bug. It might be nice if all the programs would play nicely with each other, but there is nothing that classifies this difference between MediaMonkey & Windows as a bug.

As for cutting back on the Star Ratings, I would put money on this not happening. I don't bother with half stars myself, but there are several others who do, and I can't see any actual benefit to removing the current ten point scale in favor of a smaller five point one.

PS -- I mention the handling of ID3 as I strictly use MP3 and thus it's the only tag standard I'm familiar with. If there is a different in handling other file types such as FLAC, then perhaps you might have a point (as these tagging standards might be different than ID3 and have set values for each "Star Rating" that should be used by every program.)

EDIT: Just checked Mantis and this issue is sitting around in there. (See: #3143) Says it was fixed in 3.0 in terms of Explorer showing MM's values properly, but doesn't work the other way around. *Shrugs*

[tobias.sandrock@gmail.com]

I dont know about the 255 valuation, thanks for this info.

It means: (method 1 = round up all the time)
1-25,5(25) Rating value = 0,5 stars in MM = 1 Star in Windows
25,6(26)-51 = 1 MM = 2 Win
51,1(52)-76,5(76) = 1,5 MM = 2 Win
76,6(77)-102 = 2 MM = 3 Win
102,1(103)-127,5(127) = 2,5 MM = 3 Win
127,6(128)-153 = 3 MM = 3 Win
153,1(154)-178,5(178) = 3,5 MM = 4 Win
178,6(179)-204 = 4 MM = 4 Win
204,1(205)-229,5(229) = 4,5 MM = 5 Win
229,6(230)-255 = 5 MM = 5 Win

Or does MM use the mathematic correct value like method 2?

How About: (method 1 = round up all the time)
1-51 value = 1 MM = 1 Win
52-102 value = 2 MM = 2 Win
103-153 value = 3 MM = 3 Win
154-204 value = 4 MM = 4 Win
205-255 value = 5 MM = 5 Win

Or better the mathematic correct value?: (method 2 = round up and down)
1-1,499 = 1 star = 1-76 value
1,5-2,499 = 2 stars = 77-127 value
2,5-3,499 = 3 stars = 128-178 value
3,5-4,499 = 4 stars = 179-229 value
4,5-5 = 5 stars = 230-255 value

And ye this isn't a bug, I simply cant understand the 1 and 2 Star Rating in MM...
Could it be a rounding problem?
How does Windows calculate the value for the stars, method 1 or 2?
And how does MediaMonkey?
I cant teste it in Windows because the value isn't shown.

[Peke]

I wonder if we can make exactly 256 MP3 files tagged with POPM tag filenamed with RATING value and then compare how MM and how Vista, WMP, ... see them?

[rovingcowboy]

I dont know about the 255 valuation, thanks for this info.

It means: (method 1 = round up all the time)
1-25,5(25) Rating value = 0,5 stars in MM = 1 Star in Windows
25,6(26)-51 = 1 MM = 2 Win
51,1(52)-76,5(76) = 1,5 MM = 2 Win
76,6(77)-102 = 2 MM = 3 Win
102,1(103)-127,5(127) = 2,5 MM = 3 Win
127,6(128)-153 = 3 MM = 3 Win
153,1(154)-178,5(178) = 3,5 MM = 4 Win
178,6(179)-204 = 4 MM = 4 Win
204,1(205)-229,5(229) = 4,5 MM = 5 Win
229,6(230)-255 = 5 MM = 5 Win

Or does MM use the mathematic correct value like method 2?

How About: (method 1 = round up all the time)
1-51 value = 1 MM = 1 Win
52-102 value = 2 MM = 2 Win
103-153 value = 3 MM = 3 Win
154-204 value = 4 MM = 4 Win
205-255 value = 5 MM = 5 Win

Or better the mathematic correct value?: (method 2 = round up and down)
1-1,499 = 1 star = 1-76 value
1,5-2,499 = 2 stars = 77-127 value
2,5-3,499 = 3 stars = 128-178 value
3,5-4,499 = 4 stars = 179-229 value
4,5-5 = 5 stars = 230-255 value

And ye this isn't a bug, I simply cant understand the 1 and 2 Star Rating in MM...
Could it be a rounding problem?
How does Windows calculate the value for the stars, method 1 or 2?
And how does MediaMonkey?
I cant teste it in Windows because the value isn't shown.

the way you are saying is just the way the rating script from diddeleedoo worked.
you could configure in any amounts you wanted.

but alass, the script does not work on version 3.0.3 only on mediamonkey v. 2.5.5
it might work on mm v 3.0.0 but that has bugs in it. the only good rating system now that is being currently updated with mm 3. is big berny's and you can set your ratings any way you want it.

[enemy]

Ah ok, with that I can work!

Very thanks!