last fm winamp plugin update breaks functionality with MM?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:19 am

I'm sure I'm not bringing up any new information but I wonder have the MM devs seen http://www.audioscrobbler.net/development/ ? It looks like support for MM must come from without before it comes from within. Or something.

Yes, this is my first post. I'm looking for a replacement for Winamp since 5.5x seems to crash incessantly when doing any sort of playlist manipulation (primarily when saving). Unfortunately, Winamp also has everything I need in the way of features. MediaMonkey looks like it would be a great alternative (my primary need is an "autofill" feature for my Zen Stone but it looks like MM's autoplaylists might cover that) but as I'm also a last.fm (client) user, I hesitate to switch to MM when I've got to hassle with the client auto-update nag while using a deprecated Winamp plugin. I'd much rather see a dedicated MM plugin and get rid of Winamp altogether.

I had a search around the forums but didn't find anything specific to the link I posted above. If there's some information I've missed regarding internal support for audioscrobbler, please point me to it.

Thanks!

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:22 am

D'oh! I really thought I had registered here at one point. Sorry all. That guest post above is mine.

Cheers!

Blizz · Post by **Blizz** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:28 am

You don't need winamp installed to use the plugin. And as long as you use the old version, everything works perfect. I don't have a problem with cancelling the upgrade request, although I hope it will be resolved one day.

If you're still with winamp and have a nice amount of MP3s, switch today rather than tomorrow! Trust me, I was a dedicated winamp user myself until I installed MM for the first time

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:51 am

Blizz wrote:And as long as you use the old version, everything works perfect.

Until I play a track that requires Unicode. Hmm, I don't think I need that but still.

I don't have a problem with cancelling the upgrade request,

Oh, that would drive me bananas. I'm also quite neurotic!

although I hope it will be resolved one day.

That won't happen until/unless a dedicated plugin is developed, I'm afraid.

If you're still with winamp and have a nice amount of MP3s, switch today rather than tomorrow! Trust me, I was a dedicated winamp user myself until I installed MM for the first time

I do and I want to but alas, you haven't convinced me yet. Thanks for trying though.

drjboulder · Post by **drjboulder** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:38 pm

spacefish wrote:
I don't have a problem with cancelling the upgrade request,
Oh, that would drive me bananas. I'm also quite neurotic!

If you use option 2 mentioned here, you do not have to deal with the nagging upgrade message.

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:22 pm

drjboulder wrote:
spacefish wrote:
I don't have a problem with cancelling the upgrade request,
Oh, that would drive me bananas. I'm also quite neurotic!
If you use option 2 mentioned here, you do not have to deal with the nagging upgrade message.

Ah, that version of the plugin is so old (I remember it well) it would be like taking a step backwards. Thanks, though.

Are there no plans to develop a dedicated plugin for MediaMonkey? Why all the hassle with Winamp?

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:40 pm

See 3rd post of this thread:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 3261#23264

spacefish · Post by **spacefish** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:22 pm

nohitter151 wrote:See 3rd post of this thread:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... 3261#23264

Which says:

rusty wrote:Re. last.fm/scrobbler issues: Peke has been working on a plugin (will not be bundled with MM 3.0) that adds proper scrobbling for MM3. Our priority, at the moment is on getting MM3 out the door, so this will have to wait a little bit longer. To assuage your concerns about the lack of unicode support, see most recent test results below (you'll have to trust me that this was scrobbled with the MM plugin):

Sweet! I'll be patient. Thanks everyone for the help understanding what's going on with MM and last.fm.

aidan_cage · Post by **aidan_cage** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:26 am

what is the difference between the old plugin and the newer one (that is not the newest because the newest one does not work with MM) which also needs the application installed to use ?

drjboulder · Post by **drjboulder** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:35 am

aidan_cage wrote:what is the difference between the old plugin and the newer one (that is not the newest because the newest one does not work with MM) which also needs the application installed to use ?

spacefish wrote:Ah, that version of the plugin is so old (I remember it well) it would be like taking a step backwards. Thanks, though.

Not sure why old is bad... it works fine for me.
It Scrobbles - thats' what counts, right?

aidan_cage · Post by **aidan_cage** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:40 am

that's my sentiment

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:50 am

aidan_cage wrote:what is the difference between the old plugin and the newer one (that is not the newest because the newest one does not work with MM) which also needs the application installed to use ?

I would imagine that if you are paying for your Last.fm membership (in which you get more features such as a personalized radio station) that the newer Last.fm client is much more preferable since you can't use the plugin to play any last.fm radio stations. Other features missing from the plugin which are included in the last.fm client include applying your own "tags" to played music and being able to "love" a track.

Of course if these features aren't important to you, then the old audioscrobbler plugin is probably preferable.

Post by **Peke** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:48 am

Just to Let You know that these holidays are not spoiling us at all

Blizz · Post by **Blizz** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:51 am

Guess it's a good thing you're a user yourselves

Can hardly wait till a version is released woohoow!

One question though, from the looks of the screenshot it seems like a fully integrated plugin, so it won't use the last.fm application, right?

nohitter151 · Post by **nohitter151** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:56 am

Peke wrote:Just to Let You know that these holidays are not spoiling us at all