Wifi Sync - Is it possible?

[timelezz]

Alright, I have one other idea. How about Sync to FTP?

MM already is elaborated on syncing play list to mobile phones that get connected through USB. Currently mobile phones can make an FTP connection. (For example with the Android app Remote Web Desktop). It may be a small step for MM developers enable us to sync play list to an FTP URL. It could even auto-sync to this FTP URL when connection is established.

I think this idea sounds great. What do you guys think?

[nohitter151]

Alright, I have one other idea. How about Sync to FTP?

MM already is elaborated on syncing play list to mobile phones that get connected through USB. Currently mobile phones can make an FTP connection. (For example with the Android app Remote Web Desktop). It may be a small step for MM developers enable us to sync play list to an FTP URL. It could even auto-sync to this FTP URL when connection is established.

I think this idea sounds great. What do you guys think?

I think if the MM devs are going to add a new feature for syncing, then they should do it properly with Wifi. Syncing to FTP just adds another layer of confusion.

[timelezz]

I agree. It's just a great option if they don't want to spend much time on it. As it would serve me well. But indeed, if they have time, I would like to see something more sophisticated.

[Lowlander]

FTP sync is already possible thanks to Trixmoto: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... &hilit=ftp

[ACraigL]

Media Player Pro (on Android) already allows you to rate songs, and even works bi-directionally with iTunes and Songbird. It can handle this in different ways, but the two most likely options are in-file and separate database. Since MM is already scanning the device, it would be great if it could either read/interpret this database or look for ratings in the file metadata. Granted, the latter would take longer, but either way, the data seems available.

I guess what's missing is the desire to capture it. Frankly even if MM wanted a proprietary DB or protocol for handling this, I'm positive Media Player Pro would be happy to support it. Heck, they did it for iSyncr.

[Peke]

Have you asked them to contact us? Who knows maybe we can help.

[ACraigL]

I posted on their support boards for any interest.... We'll see...

[Finsternis]

Have you asked them to contact us? Who knows maybe we can help.

I've done enough programming to know that what sounds easy on paper often isn't easy in practice. And I'm sure that syncing of metadata is probably one of those things. But It doesn't require writing a brand new Android media player. Perhaps something like this would work:

1) Find an open source Android media player
2) Examine the code and make just a couple modifications that do nothing but add a line to a text file when certain actions happen. For example, when a new son is played it just takes a line onto a log file that gives the name of the song and the date/time it was played. Or skipped. Or what the new rating is. Simple log entries to MediaMonkey.XML or something.
3) When you sync with MM, it looks for a file named Mediamonkey.XML, parses the log one line at a time, and updates the metadata in its database, then deletes the file from the phone.

Would that be way harder than it sounds? My point is, you don't have to start from scratch, and you don't have to re-invent the wheel with some kind of fancy system. All you need to do is keep a log of a few simple events like plays, skips, and rating changes and then parse it into MM during sync.

[ACraigL]

Have you asked them to contact us? Who knows maybe we can help.

I've done enough programming to know that what sounds easy on paper often isn't easy in practice. And I'm sure that syncing of metadata is probably one of those things. But It doesn't require writing a brand new Android media player. Perhaps something like this would work:

1) Find an open source Android media player
2) Examine the code and make just a couple modifications that do nothing but add a line to a text file when certain actions happen. For example, when a new son is played it just takes a line onto a log file that gives the name of the song and the date/time it was played. Or skipped. Or what the new rating is. Simple log entries to MediaMonkey.XML or something.
3) When you sync with MM, it looks for a file named Mediamonkey.XML, parses the log one line at a time, and updates the metadata in its database, then deletes the file from the phone.

Would that be way harder than it sounds? My point is, you don't have to start from scratch, and you don't have to re-invent the wheel with some kind of fancy system. All you need to do is keep a log of a few simple events like plays, skips, and rating changes and then parse it into MM during sync.

+1

I think there are options out there (like Media PlayerPro) that have 90% of what is needed to allow full ratings/playcount sync back to the PC from the device.

[timelezz]

FTP sync is already possible thanks to Trixmoto: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... &hilit=ftp

5 days before you point to this thread, I already wrote in that thread that FTP Sync is no longer working! There seem to be no plans to fix FTP Sync.

[Brainiac]

Use Google Music

1. Sync MM playlist (I have auto playlist for 5 star rated music) to a folder on your pc

2. configure google music to sync with this folder.

done

no usb syncing any more.

If you don't like streaming, you can chose in GM to make the musich available offline.

done

cheers

[Dubious]

Using MM's ability to sync with usb mass storage drives, you can setup wifi sync if you have root on an android phone. Basically you trick MM into thinking it's syncing to a USB mass storage drive.

First you need an sbm app for your phone like Samba. Using Samba you can share and browse your phone on your network. Basically you'll be able to browse it over wifi by going to \\android\sdcard.

Then map a network drive to the shared network resource. For me, I made a "W:" drive for my wifi syncing, and mapped it to \\android\sdcard.

Then in MM options, setup Portable/Audio Devices. Configure a USB Mass storage device. On the "options" tab, make sure "Device configuration" points to your mapped drive letter. For playlists to work properly, go to the "Playlists" settings on the "options" tab and check the "Force relative paths" box. That got playlists working for me in players that support m3u files like Google Music and Winamp. Also, in "options" "destination" settings, you can use the <Path> string to get your phone's file structure to match your computer's file structure. I prefer this to reorganizing based on artist, album, etc... Tweak the other settings to match your particular organization preferences and you're good to go.

[ACraigL]

Using MM's ability to sync with usb mass storage drives, you can setup wifi sync if you have root on an android phone. Basically you trick MM into thinking it's syncing to a USB mass storage drive.

First you need an sbm app for your phone like Samba. Using Samba you can share and browse your phone on your network. Basically you'll be able to browse it over wifi by going to \\android\sdcard.

Then map a network drive to the shared network resource. For me, I made a "W:" drive for my wifi syncing, and mapped it to \\android\sdcard.

Then in MM options, setup Portable/Audio Devices. Configure a USB Mass storage device. On the "options" tab, make sure "Device configuration" points to your mapped drive letter. For playlists to work properly, go to the "Playlists" settings on the "options" tab and check the "Force relative paths" box. That got playlists working for me in players that support m3u files like Google Music and Winamp. Also, in "options" "destination" settings, you can use the <Path> string to get your phone's file structure to match your computer's file structure. I prefer this to reorganizing based on artist, album, etc... Tweak the other settings to match your particular organization preferences and you're good to go.

This is a good solution, and well described. Thanks for posting it.
I set up something very similar a few month back and abandoned it because performance was so lousy over wifi. At the end of the day, I found it less troublesome (and much faster) just to connect the cable. Based on personal experience only.

[dogface3247]

Yea Samba is great work for me. I wish i found this out b4 i paid for a different app from the market that did not work. Samba works great with mm

[mgillespie]

If you have a Sony Ericsson Xperia phone running Android 2.3.2 or newer, you can use MTP over Wifi to achieve this. (no root needed)

There is a thread about how to set it up here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1016341

Works fine on my Xperia Arc S