Wrong album art

[MeeMeeMee]

I'm still in the process of cleaning-up my music collection, adding album art as I go along.
I'm experiencing a strange album art-related issue I don't know how to fix.
Because of all the grouping issues I've ran into, I think some albums without album art "picked up" wrong album art when they were grouped with tracks from other albums.

For example, I have a Beatles album with a Leonard Cohen album art (yeah, it's totally messed up).
Now it gets really strange: When I check those Beatles' track properties, the Artwork tab is empty.
Right-clicking on the artwork and selecting Edit Artwork Properties leads to a similarly empty artwork tab.

Checking "Apply to all selected files" and pressing OK on that empty artwork tab does nothing.

Another thing that I've noticed, is when I edit/cleanup the album tag for albums without artwork, MM automagically picks-up artwork. The wrong artwork. and the artwork tab of such album? You guessed it - it's empty.

Help!

[Lowlander]

Clear the image cache in your MediaMonkey Temp folder (set under Tools > Options > General).

[MeeMeeMee]

There were two folders named MMCache... under C:\Documents and Settings\Mememe\Local Settings\Temp
I closed MM and deleted them both.
Then, I restarted MM, and while it was scanning (does it matter?) I went to The Beatles node. That's what I saw:


Fwiw, I'm, currently running the beta build 4.0.3.1465, but this problem was there before, when using the non-beta 4.0.x builds.

[Lowlander]

It's not something I've seen.

[MeeMeeMee]

Anything else I can do?
Are there any more details you'd like me to provide to figure this one out?

[Lowlander]

I don't know, maybe a debug log (step 4b) send to support will help the developers out: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=69

[MeeMeeMee]

Now that I think of it, I don't think I saw this happening for other artists.
Maybe it's somehow related to the fact that I have both the mono and stereo remastered versions of those Beatles albums and the artist/album tags are identical for both those albums. They only differ in the comment.

[Lowlander]

Then, yes, same Album Artist and Album values are considered the same Album. The developers recommend using a differentiating value in the Album field like album name (stereo) album name (mono).

[MeeMeeMee]

Only in this case, albums with different names did, somehow, end up with the same album art.

[martino16]

Hello,

I'm using version 4.0.02.1462 Gold (on a Vista 64 bit Windows Home Prem machine: Intel 9550/8gb ram) and I'm having a similar problem.

I am ripping to FLAC and adding artwork as I go. 90% of the time I'm getting the artwork from MM's Auto tag system which seems to work fine for most of the time. But when I open MM the next time some artwork isn't where it should be and another image may be there instead.

If I can't find an album through the Auto tag I will paste an image directly into MM and sometimes the image I paste wont be the image that subsequently comes up in MM.

I have checked the folders where the music is stored and the correct image is there, likewise if I check the Album Properties it also shows the correct image, but a different one is showing in MM.

I have also had instances where artwork that I have added has 'disappeared' ie I paste the image, the image appears and I watch the tagging procedure complete but when I open next time it has gone.

I didn't have these issues with the previous version.

I am slowing conquering the problem by constantly correcting the issues as they arise and sometimes the fixes stick and sometimes they don't.

Also in this version when I rip a new album the album only seems to get recognised the 'Albums' section of MM and only after I select the album does it then appear in the 'Artist' list.


Martin

[MeeMeeMee]

(returning to this issue)

As the screenshot I posted shows, I have an album (The Beatles/A hard day's night {stereo remaster}) which displays one album art but that image isn't listed on its artwork tab.
What isn't shown in that screenshot is that the other version of that album (The Beatles/A hard day's night {mono remaster}) doesn't have any(!) images listed under the artwork tab.

The content of the artwork tab, for both albums, is correct.

[MeeMeeMee]

I grabbed SQLiteStudio and started browsing the DB.
It appears that the the content of the artwork tab is correctly reflected in the DB. The source of the problem is, probably, some run-time computation that selects the wrong album art to be displayed (but doesn't link it to the songs in the DB).
Here are some examples.
First, I grabbed all the data about those A hard day's night track (mono and stereo) from the Songs table:
SQL query:

Code: Select all

select 
    songs.* 
from 
    songs,albums
where
    songs.IDAlbum = albums.ID
    and
    albums.Album like 'a hard day%'
order by
    IDAlbum,tracknumber

Result: http://justpaste.it/p9o
Then, I grabbed the Covers data for those tracks from the Covers table:

Code: Select all

select 
    songs.id,songs.SongTitle,songs.Comment,covers.* 
from 
    covers,songs,albums
where
    covers.IDSong = songs.ID
    and
    songs.IDAlbum = albums.ID
    and
    albums.Album like 'a hard day%'

Result: http://justpaste.it/p9p
As you can see, only the Stereo version has covers, as I wrote above.

[Lowlander]

Did you clean the image cache again to make sure it isn't loaded from cache?

[MeeMeeMee]

Did you clean the image cache again to make sure it isn't loaded from cache?

It didn't occur to me to think about the cache. Now that I asked myself how the image cache is managed, I noticed that both the CacheStatus and CacheName columns are empty for all those tracks.
To answer your question: I'm afraid not. I didn't think of that. I did that a few days ago, following your suggestion. the DB is a backup I made yesterday. In the past few days I didn't look at this issue, or browsed those Beatles albums. Maybe that explains it?

What are the search paths for artwork? Maybe the artwork is picked-up, in my case, because of that?
The folder structure for the mono boxset is:

Code: Select all

Beatles In Mono
    artwork
        A Hard Day's Night                     <-- that's where the cover art is
        Beatles For Sale
        ...
    Beatles - 1963 - Please Please Me (Mono)
    Beatles - 1963 - With The Beatles (Mono)
    Beatles - 1964 - A Hard Day's Night (Mono) <-- that's where the flac files are
    ....

So, maybe, it's picking the wrong artwork for the mono albums because they're stored together like that (but not storing it in the DB!?). Then, because the mono/stereo albums share the artist/album details (but have the correct artwork assigned) conflict. And the resolution of this conflict turns up to be the wrong artwork.

What do you think?

[Lowlander]

Cache is in the temp folder (Tools > Options > General) and you'd want to delete it to make sure. You also may want to disable scan file directories for artwork under Tools > Options > Library, but you indicated that the Artwork tab doesn't show any images, thus this isn't an issue.