classification

[helkav]

Where are the classification settings stored?

is it somewhere in the ID3 tags?

up until now I have been using Genre to store this kind of stuff, but it would be excellent if this was incorporated into the ID3 tags

[MPG]

Not quite sure what you mean by classification. Can you provide an example?

[Lowlander]

Yes, for most formats it is stored in the tags: http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.p ... erties/4.0

Note that all metadata is always stored in the database.

[helkav]

@mpg:

classification is on the media tree under music, contains tempo/mood/occasion/quality - I think it's a great idea and just the sort of thing I have been trying to shoehorn into iTunes using the genre...nice to have a music player that recognises that this is the kind of stuff that people want

@lowlander:

so, is tempo based on BPM?

when you say all metadata is stored in the database, do you mean as well as in the files?

btw the file formats I mostly use are MP3, AAC - but if possible I will convert all to MP3 ultimately

[nohitter151]

Look at the link lowlander posted. It shows for all formats whether a particular field is saved to tags and if so, which tag.

[Lowlander]

when you say all metadata is stored in the database, do you mean as well as in the files?

Not necessarily, the link will explain which tags are stored for which formats in the files themselves.

so, is tempo based on BPM?

No, you the user fill in the temp field, you can use any values you'd like to use.

[helkav]

thanks that link is very clear. good to know what's in the the tags and what's not

now I just have to decide if I want to use BPM or Tempo (or both)

just too many options, I am spoilt!

[jellison999]

I have Media Moneky 4.03 running on Windows Vista 32-bit. It works really well. I recently ran the Mixmaster BPM Analyzer 1.0 (the freeware) over my music collection, which is all MP3's, to add beats per minute to all the songs for exercise playlists. (Yes, I hit the rescan button in Mixmaster.) It took a few hours but it did the job. However there's one thing that looks like a bug and one feature enhancement request I'd like to make.

First, the feature enhancement request: when I click on Music, then All in the far left pane, then in the central pane's columns list add the BPM column, the BPMs don't display anything to the right of the decimal point. Would it be possible to show BPM to the nearest tenth? I know that sounds either goofy or anal, but it does make a difference once you get used to a particular rhythm. (MixMeister outputs BPM to 2 decimal places but I can't feel any difference in the hundredths place.)

Second, the possible bug: when I bring up Music All in the far left pane, then in the central pane pick any song name, right click on it, choose Properties, then click on the Details tab, the BPM field at upper right is empty. Would it be possible to fill that in? The link up above in this thread says that Media Monkey 4 supports MP3 BPM in ID3v2, so it seems like it would work. I don't think there is a problem with my mp3 files' ID3 field format. Most of the files were ripped with MediaMonkey 3.2 and higher.

Is there someplace else I should submit this?

Thanks.

[Lowlander]

1) Already discussed: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... m+decimals

2) Did you rescan after analyzing for BPM to read the new BPM value into the MediaMonkey database?

[jellison999]

>> 1) Already discussed:
Gah! Sorry!

>> 2) Did you rescan after analyzing for BPM to read the new BPM value into the MediaMonkey database?
Yes.

Thanks.

[jellison999]

Thank you for the quick reply.

I think I found a viable workaround: In MixMeister BPM Analyzer, after pressing the Rescan button twice and waiting a few hours for it to complete analyzing, there's a button next to Rescan labeled Export to Text File. When I press that it dumps into a Notepad-format plain text file each song's full path and filename, title, artist, and BPM to two digits after the decimal point. The fields are tab delimited. I did a control-A, then pasted it into Excel, and now it's all sortable by BPM and artist.

If you don't have Excel, then probably any basic spreadsheet, like the free one in java OpenOffice would work. Tab-delimited format is widely recognized.

Assembling BPM playlists from MediaMonkey that way is still going to be more laborious than if it were doable in Media Monkey alone. However, if I use MediaMonkey's BPM sort to get everything clustered within 1 BPM groups, then fine tune it with the spreadsheet BPM list, I think it'll go reasonably fast.