Tie songs (that belong) together

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Tie songs (that belong) together

Postby UncleBoarder » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:55 am

This is a general library feature request but it would be most useful in random playback mode. When I play my playlist in random mode, I need some way to group songs that belong together.

So far I've found no program that does this. MM does almost everything I've been looking for... so I thought I'd ask...

Some songs are mastered as seperate tracks but are meant to be played together. Or perhaps you have a couple you always like to hear together. How can I "tie" songs together no matter where or in what playlist they're played from?

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Postby Steegy » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:20 am

Hello

I guess you mean that e.g. in a DJ mixed cd, sometimes the mix is cut into pieces as seperate tracks, but they are actually part of one large song (dj-set, liveset, ...). Then these seperate songs would have to be tied together as a tied group?
(and you would also like to make a tied group for any songs you want always to be played together)

Is that correct?


If MM would play one song of that tied group, would you then like the other songs to follow, or would you rather like that MM begins from the first song of the group, and after that one the other songs follow.
say MM starts song 4, would you like to play 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
or would you like to play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ?
Anyway, that's just a detail that could be set as an option.

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Grouping songs - Examples

Postby UncleBoarder » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:11 pm

Not only a DJ mix, some original CDs have the "problem". In your example 4,5,6,7,8 would be the choice.

e.g. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon... track 1 "Breathe" has a smooth transition into track 2 "On the Run". If you play it in shuffle mode it sounds like the song is just cut off because it's missing the "ending" which is really the beginning of track 3.

There are a number CDs like this where a "prelude" is mastered as a separate track. When you play in shuffle mode you effectively loose part of the song.

Another example would be Blackfoot, Strikes... the song "Train, Train" has a :36 second prelude that is a separate track. It is not a stand alond song.

I hope that makes sense.

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Re: Grouping songs - Examples

Postby MarineBrat » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:07 pm

UncleBoarder wrote:e.g. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon... track 1 "Breathe" has a smooth transition into track 2 "On the Run".


It's funny that this is the exact album & song that I thought about when started reading your post. :)
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Postby Lowlander » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:38 pm

This has been requested. The main problem is that you'll need to manually link the songs together. I wonder how many people would like such a feature as it's a lot of work and makes the shuffle not so shuffle. There is a script that can play by album, maybe that it helps a little.
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Add a poll?

Postby UncleBoarder » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:04 pm

Personally I think a manual link is the perfect solution. But you raise a good question Lowlander. How many people are interested?

I'll add a poll.

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Postby trixmoto » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:51 am

Sorry, I was going to try and script this but I honestly can't think of a suitable way of doing it. It does sound like interesting advanced functionality which would be unique from any other player I've heard of though.
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Postby Steegy » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:17 am

If it's some kind of relief, I'm working on it...

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Postby Steegy » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:25 am

OK, the first version of the TiedSongsGroups script is finished. It will probably contains some bugs, but for now, it has been working quite good.

TiedSongsGroups: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto ... highlight=

ADDITION: Live albums can also use this feature (next to these already mentioned)

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