Converting Files to MP3 Without Duplicate Library Entries

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:10 am

When I convert songs to mp3's and place them in a folder for device synchronization, the Library shows two entries for each song which was synch'ed, one wave file and one mp3 file.

Is there a way to "turn off" the Library for these files, at least temporily, because with about 3000 songs on my ipod, and hence 3,000 duplicates in the library, this becomes problematic.

I do not want to send raw wave files to the ipod--they are just too big. I want to convert them to mp3's then synchronize. And having the ability to delete these so the library doesn't see the mp3's except when I want it to, would be a great advantage. I use the "C" Drive for device synchronization and an external drive for the main Library and my wave files.

Thanks in advance, guys.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:16 am

your having a networking problem.

which is really monkey trying to keep records for both lib. one on the external and one on the c drive.

not sure how you would fix that. but i know it has been asked before in the forums. search for external harddrive or networking in the search box.

that should bring up the thread with your answer in.

sorry i don't do that so i can't help. i have my hard drives daisy chained on a raid card.

roving cowboy /keith hall

Post by **Lowlander** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:16 am

No, you can exclude file types (mp3) from scanning, but you can't turn it on and off when you would like to.

The question is why not convert to mp3 on synchronization so you don't have duplicates?

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:39 am

I don't want to convert to mp3 because I use the computer to drive a real stereo, and wave files are better quality and uncompressed, and better for a real stereo.

Compressed mp3's are fine for a stupid iPod.

There is a work-around here, and I suspect it will involve converting, exporting, loading it to an iPod then deleting the mp3's on the drive. Once they are on the iPod, I don't need them anymore, and I can convert and export fairly easily with MM.

Post by **Lowlander** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:17 pm

I meant when you sync with the iPod you can convert during sync. It will take longer, but you don't end up with duplicates on your harddrive and thus MediaMonkey. Your harddrive would only have the original wave files.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:29 pm

Can I sync to a subset of the MM Library (not the whole thing)? I can easily develop a Playlist for the iPod?

Post by **Lowlander** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:29 pm

I never used sync as I don't have a portable player but I believe that its possible.

You could try reading this: http://www.mediamonkey.com/faq/index.ph ... cat=373732

heinimuecki · Post by **heinimuecki** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:05 am

you can sync playlists to the Ipod created in MM
have a look at here

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9129

that's how i do it. the only differece in your case would be that you might use the auto-conversion option set up to your needs

maybe it helps a bit

good luck

rovingcowboy · Post by **rovingcowboy** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:22 pm

scooter

you can get the mp3 files to sound as good as a cdrom with the bit rate set to 196 or higher. they say 160 is all you need but i found anything lower then 196 has trouble with songs, with both sets of lyrics one in the forground and one in the back ground. some rap songs do this with that rap beat which will also make it mess up.

reason it messes up is the compression codes will toss out bits it thinks does not matter, just to get the size smaller, and in doing that you can get the beat in the foreground mixed with the word in the background and the word in the forground, making what is hear a completely different word.

the latest song i heard this on is a rap song from missey elliott with fat man on. when compressed to much they words are mixed more then needed. so all the tracks layed out make for some bad lyrics that way.

when i did a search on the web for the lyrics they were not what i heard.
so the only thing is too low of compression the wma was at 128 kbps which messed it up.

i use an fm transmitter to play songs on my stereo unit also. but i use ogg format at 320 kbps which is equal to about an 500 kbps mp3.

even with that compress i turned on the surround sound in the pc and it is transmitted to the stereo also. so there still is enough bits in the ogg files for that to work.

wav's are of course just like the old records. but now think how much room did those old records take up.?

you can always do some editing on the wav's and get them to sound just as good as they do now when compressed in to the ogg format or the higer kbps mp3 's

go to my website and look for the tip on restoring music that page will tell you how to adjust the wav file for best sound and then when you compress it, the song will still sound good.

http://www.angelfire.com/tx3/rovingcowboy/truck.html

that is the page look for the button in the table near the top of the page.

you should atleast check it out even if you still don't want to do the compression of the songs you will know how to have better sounding wav files.

unless your not in the 1 out of every 100 people group that can hear that the digital format is missing some freq's, then you wont hear the difference.
but there is a slight difference between the records and the digital wav files.

slight but there and only 1 in 100 of us can hear those freq's.

just some thought input for you to check out and think about.

also a wav file takes about 10.1 mb's a minute where the 320 kbps ogg files take about 3.5 mb's for 3 to 4 minutes